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    Re: The Clearcoat Failure Photo Archive

    I've got a stupid question sort of relating to this topic.

    If you have had clearcote failure and the clear is completely gone but the base coat is still fine (just oxidized), can you buff and polish and protect the basecoat for a better finish ?

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    Re: The Clearcoat Failure Photo Archive

    Quote Originally Posted by RJ Thoms View Post
    I've got a stupid question sort of relating to this topic.

    If you have had clearcote failure and the clear is completely gone but the base coat is still fine (just oxidized), can you buff and polish and protect the basecoat for a better finish ?
    Yes and no.

    If you do this you may see a nice bump in gloss on the color coat, but it won't last long at all. The color coat in a base/clear system is not designed to be glossy - all of the gloss is in the clear. So trying to maintain even a moderate level of gloss is going to be an exercise in frustration.
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    Re: The Clearcoat Failure Photo Archive

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Stoops View Post
    Yes and no.

    If you do this you may see a nice bump in gloss on the color coat, but it won't last long at all. The color coat in a base/clear system is not designed to be glossy - all of the gloss is in the clear. So trying to maintain even a moderate level of gloss is going to be an exercise in frustration.
    Not to mention the base coat is very soft, too.

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    Re: The Clearcoat Failure Photo Archive

    so how can i best prevent cc failure my dark blue Volvo is out side near the beach 24 hours a day ?

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    Re: The Clearcoat Failure Photo Archive

    Wash it regularly, and wax it regularly with a good synthetic product like NXT or Ultimate Wax. That is really about the best you can do. Keep in mind, though, that if there was some sort of an issue with the paint at the factory (rare, but it has been known to happen) the clear could be destined for failure no matter what you do. That isn't said to scare you or anyone, it's just something that can happen in rare cases.

    Remember, the clear coat has a good amount of UV screeners in it to protect the paint finish, and any wax or sealant you apply is a sacrificial barrier that breaks down over time. That's why keeping a good coat of wax/sealant on is important - once or twice a year is not sufficient. Even so, waxing regularly is still not a guarantee against clear coat failure.
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    Re: The Clearcoat Failure Photo Archive

    Perhaps a polishing step could be more helpful as well in that situation.
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    Re: The Clearcoat Failure Photo Archive

    Murr, Here is a stupid follow-up question:

    I have a similar problem, so, since I also have a "soft" color coat, I will use M7 (no abrasives) as the polish? Or, use the minimum abrasive to get the desired gloss?
    Then the synthetic.

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    Re: The Clearcoat Failure Photo Archive

    And for this people i have given my VW Mk3 the Sound Dampening/isolation liner under the hood from the diesel line!

    Park it so it will be out of the sun most of the day!
    never drive insane that will increase engine temps!

    And lots of Nxt 2.0 wax with on top afther 24hours Gold glass Plus

    but admin/anyone!
    is sometimes Clearcoat failure caused due to bad painting? let say a repaint of a year of 5 ago? in combination of even worse maintenance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Stoops View Post
    Yes and no.

    If you do this you may see a nice bump in gloss on the color coat, but it won't last long at all. The color coat in a base/clear system is not designed to be glossy - all of the gloss is in the clear. So trying to maintain even a moderate level of gloss is going to be an exercise in frustration.
    Ehhh.. can i add something to that!
    mine 95 VW mk3 has LP3G flashred SSpaint! my passenger door has lost it CC on the top part at the window!(was resprayed in 02)
    i polished it with Ultimate compound and its still glossy for 1 year now!
    but i do wax my car every month nxt 2.0 2nd layer is goldclass plus(for the fun)
    use Ultimate wash n wax and when dry i go over it with Ultimate quickdetailer!

    Many people on the meetings don't even see that the cc is gone there!
    just my words on that! but i do agree that on larger surfaces it a pain the $ss to keep it glossy !

    just some words on this matter

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    Re: The Clearcoat Failure Photo Archive

    Can anyone tell me whether this is a case of oxidation or clear coat failure?





    If the images weren't uploaded properly, see the direct links below:
    http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5269/...8994418f_m.jpg
    http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5103/...baca36d3_m.jpg

    More detail: there are a lot of tiny white circles in clusters, very rough to the touch and can't be chipped off when I use my fingers. Please let me know whether this is a case of oxidation or clear coat failure.

    Thanks in advance.

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