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    #83 w/ orbital

    I purchased #83 to get most of the scratches and swirls out of my truck with my orbital. Some of the cobwebbing is pretty bad. I will be doing this in this order:

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    My question is...I have deep crystal system polish, should I use that right after #83 or just go straight to NXT? What kind of pad should I use to apply #83 to? I have two microfibers and a sponge so far. I also have DC1 and two tubes of scratch-X. Thanks!
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    Re: #83 w/ orbital

    What kind of orbital?

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    Re: #83 w/ orbital

    You should use something a little less agressive than #83 and then the wax. I would use #80 then the NXT.

    You can use #83 with an orbital, but I don't think it will do that much.
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    Re: #83 w/ orbital

    Its a Vector 7" 3600rpm, I bought at Autozone. Since I do not have the PC I figured I would go with the more aggressive 83 since I do not have as powerful of machine.
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    Re: #83 w/ orbital

    Quote Originally Posted by JTeg360 View Post
    Its a Vector 7" 3600rpm, I bought at Autozone. Since I do not have the PC I figured I would go with the more aggressive 83 since I do not have as powerful of machine.
    Best thing to do would be to try a Test Spot

    Take the M83 and apply a strip of product on the face of the bonnet, use the microfiber bonnet for removing swirls and scratches.

    Now work an area about 2' squared on the hood or deck-lid. Start out by moving the product out over the area you're going to work and then slow your arm speed down and move the polisher slowly over the 2' square area. Overlap your passes by 50% and move the polisher from side to side and then from front to back. The idea being to really work the diminishing abrasives against the paint in a thorough and effective pattern.

    You're trying to remove a little paint. If you move the polisher to quickly or don't polish long enough, or don't push down hard enough, you won't remove any paint and thus you won't remove any swirls or scratches. Don't run the polisher until you go to a dry buff, that is you should always have a wet film on the surface, but do try to move the polisher in two directions for at least two passes.

    Taken from here - you should read through the below link.
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    Move the polisher in different directions
    You also want to go in at least two different directions, for example, from where you're standing, side to side, then front to back. You can also move the polisher in a kitty/corner fashion for complete, thorough and uniform cleaning action.



    Only work a small area at a time
    This will vary according to the shape, curve or body line of the panel you are polishing but for example on a large flat panel, you want to stay around a 12" to 18" squared area. The point being, don't try to work to large of an area all at once or you won't remove the defects equally everywhere.

    Overlap your sections
    When you move on to a new section, overlap into the old section for a uniform end results.


    If you're applying a pure polish, or a polish/wax or a pure wax, then you can polish larger areas at a time, use a faster arm speed, use less pressure and make fewer passes because when applying these types of products you're not trying to remove paint, merely do a good job of working the product in and leaving behind a thin even coating.

    This does not apply when using a cleaner/wax like ColorX on neglected paint because in this situation you're again trying to remove paint.

    The point of the cleaning step is to remove the defects. Because the G100's polishing action is gentle and therefore safe, it takes time to remove small particles of paint in an effort to remove a defect, so concentrate hard at doing your best work when doing the cleaning step, don't skimp out during the step and try to rush it, your results will reflect that you didn't do a good job the first time.
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    Re: #83 w/ orbital

    Quote Originally Posted by JTeg360 View Post
    Its a Vector 7" 3600rpm, I bought at Autozone. Since I do not have the PC I figured I would go with the more aggressive 83 since I do not have as powerful of machine.
    It appears that Vector has two 7" polishers. One is a high speed sander/polisher (rotary machine). The other is an "old style" orbital buffer. Which one do you have? I'm guessing the second.

    I have used #83 with the "old style" orbital. It took several passes but it worked. I used a cotton cover on the pad. I think that you would have the same results with a microfiber cover. If you have a lot of "cobwebbing" you might want to have some one buff out your truck with a rotary buffer and then maintain it yourself.

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    Re: #83 w/ orbital

    Just to stress the important point...

    Try working just one small area, your Test Spot. Use the M83, followed by either application of polish or wax. After you finish with your last step, the application and removal of wax, then inspect your results in good lighting.

    If the Test Spot area looks good, then duplicate this process over the rest of the car. If it doesn't look good enough to make you want to continue the process over the rest of the car... won't you be glad you did a test spot first?

    Then come back here and we'll help you with a new plan of action.

    We will be waiting patiently to hear about the results from your test spot using tis Vector Orbital Polisher.

    Good luck!
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    Re: #83 w/ orbital

    Its this one:

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    Re: #83 w/ orbital

    Quote Originally Posted by tguil View Post
    It appears that Vector has two 7" polishers. One is a high speed sander/polisher (rotary machine). The other is an "old style" orbital buffer. Which one do you have? I'm guessing the second.

    Tom
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    Re: #83 w/ orbital

    [QUOTE=JTeg360;182331]Its this one:



    You're good to go! Just follow Mike's directions and be ready for a full day's work or longer. Those Dodge trucks are mighty big.

    You may or may not want to use a polish after #83. It all depends on how much of a perfectionist you are.

    Have fun and good luck!

    Tom

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