M21 Synthetic Sealant 2.0 - Formula Update

[Andy M.]

Re: M21 Synthetic Sealant 2.0 - Formula Update

I just wanted to throw this out there for some reflection seeing as Houkster is new to our forum. We appreciate you being a member and we value your participation.


Sometimes it is better to push away from the keyboard. Think twice, post once.

Please familiarize yourself with our forum rules, especially, #1 and #2.

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Thanks for understanding.

Andy M.
MOL Moderator

[Andy M.]

Re: M21 Synthetic Sealant 2.0 - Formula Update

I have re-opened the thread as I have made all of the administrators of our forum aware and we will keep a close eye on it.

Thanks

Andy

[Houckster]

Re: M21 Synthetic Sealant 2.0 - Formula Update

I have looked over the rules that the moderator, Andy M., has pointed out:

1. No personal attacks toward members or non-members will be tolerated.

2. No arguing with Moderators or Administrators.

First, if a post is interpreted by the moderator as being a personal attack, there is no recourse but to accept that judgment because the second rule prohibits any exchange of viewpoints because that can be interpreted as arguing with the moderator.

I made what I thought was a reasoned reply to the objections of the administrator. The response of the moderator was that I should push away from the keyboard and think twice and post once.

I am requesting that this account be closed.

[Andy M.]

Re: M21 Synthetic Sealant 2.0 - Formula Update

I am sorry that you feel that way. But as I said, and has been a "motto" here for a number of years, at times one needs "to push away from the keyboard". And once again, you came back with another post in which you were upset.

We stand behind our Moderators, if our Moderators think you're causing problems for the online community they are empowered to take whatever action necessary to correct the problem.

I closed your account for you. No worries.

Andy M.

[RamAirV1]

Re: M21 Synthetic Sealant 2.0 - Formula Update

I thought that I'd pass on what I read on another forum about M21 and cure time. The recommendation was to leave the M21 on for 12 hours (Polycharger wasn't part of the discussion) so that it would fully cure before removing the haze. It seems to me that the protection might be more durable with this method. I'm going to try this tonight. I already have a coat of M21 on the car that I mixed with Polycharger. I won't strip what's already there, just add another layer of M21/Polycharger and wait twelve hours. I see how that works as far as ease of removal goes. Any other conclusions will take a lot longer to reach.

The curing process doesn't really begin until the haze is removed. Hazing is not the same as curing.

I tried Polycharger with a competitor's product and quite frankly I did not see all that much difference, in looks, durability, or haze time. Just my observation.

NXT is NOT the same product as #21. I think most detailers who have used both LSPs would agree with that statement. For one thing #21 lasts much longer than NXT does.

RamAirV1

[THERAPY]

Re: M21 Synthetic Sealant 2.0 - Formula Update

i didn`t understand one moment-can i maintain my car after causing or it is possible i can drive after causing ?

[THERAPY]

Re: M21 Synthetic Sealant 2.0 - Formula Update

after causing i see white broad patterns-
grinding does not help
. disappear only after washing
why?

[Andy M.]

Re: M21 Synthetic Sealant 2.0 - Formula Update

after causing i see white broad patterns-
grinding does not help
. disappear only after washing
why?

I want to try to help you but I am having difficulty understanding your question. Are you saying there is a haze on your vehicle that will only come off after washing?

Andy

[THERAPY]

Re: M21 Synthetic Sealant 2.0 - Formula Update

Andy M. Yes,you understand me.

[fordf150]

Re: M21 Synthetic Sealant 2.0 - Formula Update

NXT is NOT the same product as #21. I think most detailers who have used both LSPs would agree with that statement. For one thing #21 lasts much longer than NXT does.
RamAirV1

While I will agree with you that #21 has good durability, have you tested both products side by side for comparison?

Not saying your statement isn't true, but I remember seeing a post by Mike Phillips about this very subject. According to him the main difference in the two is that #21 is formulated to allow application by rotary (hence professional line) while NXT isn't.

[Andy M.]

Re: M21 Synthetic Sealant 2.0 - Formula Update

Andy M. Yes,you understand me.

How thick are you applying the product? What are you using to remove the product? I've never really heard of anyone having the same issue.
Have you made sure the product is dry and ready for removal?

Check this out here: The Swipe Test

This will help you know when the product is ready to be removed.

Andy

[THERAPY]

Re: M21 Synthetic Sealant 2.0 - Formula Update

Andy,thx,i unerstood my mistake-wrong swipe test. tooday i wash my car and put wax on my car,waiting several minutes and made the swipe test...i have made a good job in my mind.THANKS!!!!

[Andy M.]

Re: M21 Synthetic Sealant 2.0 - Formula Update

Andy,thx,i unerstood my mistake-wrong swipe test. tooday i wash my car and put wax on my car,waiting several minutes and made the swipe test...i have made a good job in my mind.THANKS!!!!

Glad to hear it worked out for you!

Andy

[THERAPY]

Re: M21 Synthetic Sealant 2.0 - Formula Update

Andy,please,tell me:i want to wax car by Gold Class and wax by M21,so, what better put on car first-M21 or MGC? Thx for your answer.)

[dope92cc]

Re: M21 Synthetic Sealant 2.0 - Formula Update

I bought a bottle of 21 2.0 today and I was shocked!
I would have never guessed it was purple. I mean I didn't see that one coming...
why was I not warned??!?
Anyway, I can't wait to see what this purple stuff will do to my metallic paint.