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    When to use my orbital

    I recently posted about receiving an orbital (which I didn't even know was an orbital - thinking it was a rotary buffer).

    What I haven't figured out is when is the best time to use it?

    Should I use it to PUT ON polish or TAKE it off? I'm not going to use it for removing swirls (I don't think orbitals do that), but I really am confused as to how I should use it?

    I bought both 100% cotton terry bonnets and and microfiber bonnets but both seem to "flop around" when I put them on and turn it on full speed. Any advice would be appreciated.

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    Re: When to use my orbital

    You can use a DA for polishing and removing light swirls and scratches as well as apply and removing wax. For more severe oxidation and scratches/ swirls you will need a rotary but a DA can still be used to remove some the of the lighter paint defects. You might want to get some foam applicators as well for your DA and some of them do tend to flop around if the bonnet does not fully fit correctly but the flopping will stop the second it touches a car. Also you can work in the polish with the orbital but dont try to remove it the same way because you will just work it dry and wind up with swirls. I use a microfiber towel to remove a polish after it has been worked in
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    Re: When to use my orbital

    Quote Originally Posted by Derrickg32069 View Post

    You can use a DA for polishing and removing light swirls and scratches as well as apply and removing wax.
    The polisher he has is what we refer to as a
    traditional Orbital Buffer and they are not very effective at removing swirls and scratches out of clear coat finishes.

    What you can use it for is to apply a polish or a wax, and in the case of the wax, after it has dried you can use the polisher with a clean, dry bonnet to remove wax just be sure to apply a thin coting to start with.


    This is the type of polisher he has...

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    Re: When to use my orbital

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Phillips View Post
    The polisher he has is what we refer to as a
    traditional Orbital Buffer and they are not very effective at removing swirls and scratches out of clear coat finishes.

    What you can use it for is to apply a polish or a wax, and in the case of the wax, after it has dried you can use the polisher with a clean, dry bonnet to remove wax just be sure to apply a thin coting to start with.


    This is the type of polisher he has...


    before i got into Rotary and all the mirror glaze products i had that exact craftsman orbital, with a wool bonnet i had some pretty good resutls in taking out mild swirl marks with ScratchX. i would have to finish off with a foam bonnet to take out the little marks made by the wool but it turned out pretty good.
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    Re: When to use my orbital

    Quote Originally Posted by Derrickg32069 View Post
    before i got into Rotary and all the mirror glaze products i had that exact craftsman orbital, with a wool bonnet i had some pretty good results in taking out mild swirl marks with ScratchX.
    With a wool bonnet, they can remove swirls, but just not as effectively or as fast as either the DA Polisher or the Rotary Buffer. Paint Type and a person's technique are also key factors as to whether you can successfully remove swirls and scratches read as remove small particles of paint.

    Most people that come to this forum with one of these tools have higher expectations for the "Traditional Orbital Polisher" than they are capable of doing when working on clear coat paints.

    Single stage paints are something very different and usually softer type of paint material and easier to remove scratches out of no matter how you're applying your products, that is except for single stage white paints.

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    Re: When to use my orbital

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Phillips View Post
    With a wool bonnet, they can remove swirls, but just not as effectively or as fast as either the DA Polisher or the Rotary Buffer. Paint Type and a person's technique are also key factors as to whether you can successfully remove swirls and scratches read as remove small particles of paint.

    Most people that come to this forum with one of these tools have higher expectations for the "Traditional Orbital Polisher" than they are capable of doing when working on clear coat paints.

    Single stage paints are something very different and usually softer type of paint material and easier to remove scratches out of no matter how you're applying your products, that is except for single stage white paints.

    hey Mike quick question, what is the difference in a traditional buffer and a DA i thought they were pretty much the same?
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    Re: When to use my orbital

    We generically refer to the small DA Polisher like the one we sold made by Porter Cable for years, our new G110, G220 and the UDM as DA Polishers and we generically refer to the old school style "large" orbital polishers as

    Traditional Orbital Buffers or Traditional Orbital Polishers

    They have the same type of movement, but these two groups are very different in their abilities.

    Open to suggestions for better naming protocols.


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    Re: When to use my orbital

    Thanks guys. Another question though...

    Is it normal that such a buffer does not spin in an exact circle, hence "orbital"?

    Also, what about the "flopping around" of the bonnets I purchased? They are the correct size, yet at full speed the almost pull loose. Is that normal?

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    Re: When to use my orbital

    Porscheguy,

    Thanks for the article. Very useful.

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