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    Re: how do i remove orange peel?

    im painting the car myself. I have SOME experience in painting cars. I had my old car painted at maaco <-- they did a very bad job..so i decided to start practicing my self i started researching and i bought a gun set. i just now am starting to remove the sanding scratches and it looks nice just in the one stop im doing by hand. Im going out and buying a rotary buffer sometime today.

    here are some pics




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    Re: how do i remove orange peel?

    Cool to see you willing to invest the time and energy to learn how to do things yourself including the sanding and buffing process.

    Besides the rotary buffer, can you see if you can order some,

    M105 Ultra Cut Compound
    http://www.meguiars.com/?pro-paint-c...a-Cut-Compound

    M83 for a rotary buffer follow-up polish
    http://www.meguiars.com/?pro-cleaner...Cleaner-Polish

    M82 or M09 for a DA follow up polish
    http://www.meguiars.com/?pro-cleaner...rl-Free-Polish
    http://www.meguiars.com/?pro-cleaner.../Swirl-Remover

    Wool Cutting Pad
    http://www.meguiars.com/?pro-pad/Dou...ol-Cutting-Pad
    http://www.meguiars.com/?pro-pad/Cut-N-Shine-Wool-Pad

    2-4 Polishing Pads, the W-8000 and W-8006 would be optimum (More is always better than less)
    http://www.meguiars.com/?pro-pad/Sof...Polishing-Pads


    We have a sand and buff job coming up, a couple of them actually that we are planning on investing the time to document the entire process using the above plus the Mirka Abralon Wet Sanding System.

    Waiting for a phone call to find out when we get to start, might be this Saturday, might not though, waiting for the car to get it's final clear coat sprayed.

    Don't wait for the write up as you need to get on this as fast as you can, but we'll help see you through to success.

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    Re: how do i remove orange peel?

    Just a thought since you are doing it yourself, a couple of things to try in painting is to drop the air pressure little bit on your gun, this will give you a little smoother surface to start with. Also try adding a little thinner to your paint as this will let it flow a little more before it dries. Experiment some with these to see if they help.

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    Re: how do i remove orange peel?

    i layed down the base coat today. here are some pics. Theres orange peel. But i have a great pic of a spot i removed the orange peel. A lot of work.

    Can i wet sand the car and buff then lay the clear coat after?

    Red line shows where i sanded and what it looked like before.


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    Cool Re: how do i remove orange peel?

    Quote Originally Posted by huntah2k View Post
    ...Can i wet sand the car and buff then lay the clear coat after?...
    It depends on the paint system. Many base coats can’t be sanded. Some can. Read the instruction sheets for the specific product you’re using. A basecoat that can’t be sanded usually won’t need it anyway. They formulate them that way.

    Typically, if you can sand the basecoat, you’d start with a course grit to remove the peel and progress to a fine grit before topcoating. Buffing is not necessary (or desirable).


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    Re: how do i remove orange peel?

    This is not true. I do it all the time. Rupes Mark II and Microfiber cutting pad with FG400 all day long.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Phillips View Post
    Yes.

    No matter what you may read about being able to remove sanding marks using any kind of orbital buffer, you cannot remove sanding marks quickly or effectively with one of these types of tool, you need to use a rotary buffer.

    Can a Rotary Buffer like a Makita or DeWalt be as Idiot-proof as a PC?


    You'll want to get one and start practicing, you don't want to learn how to use a rotary buffer by starting out sanding down your first car and then removing the sanding marks. You can but that's a pretty steep learning curve without someone to show you some tips and techniques to get you started.


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    Cool Re: how do i remove orange peel?

    Dude, look at the dates on this thread.

    Yes, the products you're using work, now.

    They didn't even exist back then.

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    Re: how do i remove orange peel?

    From:

    Pictures from October 15th, 2016 Wet Sanding & Rotary Polishing Class

    Earlier we stated that sanding mark removal was traditionally always been done with a rotary polisher, a wool pad and a compound." Well, things have changed a bit in the past few years with the introduction of high torque DA polishers as well as advances in pad technology (think microfiber discs) and compound technology. So much so, in fact, that we can now use a DA polisher like the MT300 to remove sanding marks in many cases. It's a good idea to refine your sanding marks as much as you can before using a DA to buff them out, but generally speaking if you finish down with 3000 grit finishing discs on a DA sander you should be able to buff them out pretty easily with a DA. A good DA. And microfiber discs. And something like M100, M105 or M101. Here the MT300/DMC5/M105 are making short work of 3000 grit hand sanding marks. - Michael Stoops

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