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  • More than once a month

    8 4.55%
  • Once a month

    8 4.55%
  • Every two months

    13 7.39%
  • Every three to five months

    35 19.89%
  • Twice a year

    69 39.20%
  • Once a year

    26 14.77%
  • I use a cleaner wax

    13 7.39%
  • Never

    4 2.27%
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    Re: How often do you "clean" the paint?

    When I feel it's time to do it,I guess.

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    Re: How often do you "clean" the paint?

    Quote Originally Posted by akimel View Post
    Just in case my original explanation was confusing, please note that an option is given in the poll for those who use a cleaner wax. I know that many Meguiar's customers use a cleaner wax (e.g., Cleaner Wax, ColorX, #6, #66) instead of a cleaner-polish, either exclusively or as preparation for LSP.

    I don't want anyone to feel left out.
    Akimel: Interesting poll. I watch your posts closely as they are guite informative. So what do you do?

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    Re: How often do you "clean" the paint?

    Doesn't "cleaning" remove paint? Wouldn't cleaning a lot be bad in the long run for the clear coat?

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    You apply a good amount of pressure to remove swirls/defects with DA/rotary, but once they are removed you can apply no pressure to DA/rotary and still clean the paint for light debris and/or wax removal.

    Am I correct in the above statement?
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    Re: How often do you "clean" the paint?

    There are huge degrees of "cleaning", the most aggressive actually referring to removing defects (Scratches, Swirls, etc). That takes a stonger cleaner, and/or stronger handling. The lightest being a nice hand wash.

    Most folks on this forum probably use "cleaning" to mean removing light surface contamination from an already good surface. Using clay followed by DC1 paintCleaner or SwirlX, especially by hand, will hardly remove any measureable paint (actually, clearcoat in newer cars). You could do it often but that is really not required.

    I "clean" my paint twice yearly, with a wash+clay+SwirlX. Probably could do it monthly but that would really be a lot of effort and mostly a waste of time.

    If it is a wonderful sunny day half-way through the summer I might do the cleaning again, but it more because I enjoy the process than because it is actually needed.
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    Re: How often do you "clean" the paint?

    **This is more me talking out loud to make sure I have this correct, sorry if some of this is repeating what your or I have said before:

    So even if using a DA, using SwirlX, ColorX, or any other light cleaner would be ok few times a year as long as I'm not adding a lot of pressure to the DA? This way it's not removing paint/clear coat to where it becomes a problem in the future but is still cleaning the paint.

    Also, will applying SwirlX or ColorX lightly (via hand or DA) on the finish still remove wax?
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    Re: How often do you "clean" the paint?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clutch34 View Post
    ... So even if using a DA, using SwirlX, ColorX, or any other light cleaner would be ok few times a year as long as I'm not adding a lot of pressure to the DA? This way it's not removing paint/clear coat to where it becomes a problem in the future but is still cleaning the paint.

    Also, will applying SwirlX or ColorX lightly (via hand or DA) on the finish still remove wax?
    If done by hand a few times a year, you probably could not remove enough clearcoat to be a problem even if you tried. With a DA, be sure you are not using an aggressive "cutting" pad (use a light "finishing" pad) and are not applying significant pressure. You should be fine.

    YES, any cleaner (either by hand or DA) will remove any existing wax. However ColorX (being an All-In-One) will re-add its own wax. That is why I prefer SwirlX (Cleaner+Polish) and then add the NXT-2.0 wax (2 coats) to gets its hydrophobic shedding and long protection. During the summer I often go with one basecoat of NXT-2.0 and top with #26 (or new GoldCrown-2.0-enhanced) since I think it looks slightly nicer on my red car and I dont need the ultimate protection I need during the winter.
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    Re: How often do you "clean" the paint?

    I don't think I'll be buying the maroon cutting pad, only the yellow polishing and black finishing pads. I assume I should be ok even if I decide to use the yellow pad.

    Thanks for the info Searle, you've been very helpful!
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    Re: How often do you "clean" the paint?

    Chemical Paint Cleaners

    Designed to enhance the depth and gloss while properly preparing the paint for a sealant or wax. Sometimes paint cleaners can have micro abrasives or they can be non-abrasive. They can remove micro-marring of the surface (i.e. light towel marks) but typically will not remove imperfections that require levelling the clear coat, but can remove some oxidation and mineral deposits.

    Formulated with solvents and / or very fine abrasives (Kaolin or China Clay) to remove old wax, embedded dirt and light stains from paint; they help to restore gloss and remove light surface imperfection.

    They are designed to be used as often as required without measurably reducing paint thickness. Some paintwork cleaner’s act as 'All in One' products, so not only do they clean and polish, but also provide limited protection.

    Schedule: every three or four months (dependent upon environmental conditions and vehicle exposure). To optimize the reflective properties and appearance of the paint surface, it is best to regularly remove both imbedded and surface contaminants and dirt.
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    Re: How often do you "clean" the paint?

    Hi, I was just reading this thread, it is very interesting. I can't help finding that the use of the term "clean" is kind of unfortunate, especially since it will confuse a customer even if the detailer understands what it means.

    I would think the "cleaning" step should include washing and claying if needed and other method to remove an old wax if claying is not needed. Then your car has a "clean" surface.

    Then anything with abrasive properties that will level the paint to get rid of swirls or light scratches should be called "paint correction" or "paint rejuvenation" or "swirl and light scratch removal" or something else that defines what is really going on.

    I wonder if the "clean" and "polish" terminology came about with Meguiars' furniture products roots.

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    Re: How often do you "clean" the paint?

    Yearly, in the summer I do a thorough detail; at the half way point in winter I'll do a paint cleaning.

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