Ultimate Compound

[dmxsoulja3]

Re: Ultimate Compound

Hey everyone first post here on this forum but long time member of some "other" detailing forums, I'm using a PC and when I first got it a few years ago it came with XMT brand polishes and I gave them one try for swirl removal and gave up, I couldn't get it to break down right and it left it looking worse and since then my PC has been a wax applicator machine lol, well on a whim I decided to give Megs stuff a try, so a polishing pad and #80 speed glaze against my 07 Uni Black VW Jetta that the previous owner possibly washed with a dust broom, hey no swirls, just LONG lines everywhere, and the #80 was so simple to use and corrected a good bit on one pass but really not strong enough. So I am thinking about picking up the UC and giving it a shot, can someone comment on, or maybe post a pic of what it looks like after it is broken down? I found this to be the most helpful thing when using #80 was seeing what it looked like after being worked.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Ultimate Compound

UC doesn't really "break down" like M80 does since the abrasive technology is completely different. Still, after working it for a few minutes the film of product will become very thin and translucent, much like M80 appears, and that's usually a sign that it's time to wipe it off. But keep in mind that since UC does not break down, it's still cutting pretty efficiently throughout the buffing cycle.

[dmxsoulja3]

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ok cool thanks for the response, so will the UC remain wet throughout the cycle and as it clears up its ready to come off or will it eventually dry as it becomes translucent and then I take it off? The 80 is very forgiving its hard NOT knowing when its done, and since I'm on black paint every mistake def shows, dry buffing leaves some nasty hologram like marring for me for sure. Also any before/after photos of people using UC? I have searched and don't see much about it other then people love it

[Michael Stoops]

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You never want to go to a dry buff, that's correct. What you're used to seeing with M80 will pretty much be the same with UC, except that what's actually happening within the product is different.

If you want some before/after shots of UC on black paint, just look through the last several Pictures from Saturday Classes and that's all you'll see - UC on black paint.

[VR6]

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Used ultimate compound on my 13 year old car, wow. The paint looks great, just like it was new. UC and ColorX really work wonders.

[watson379]

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My car had few light scratch like swirl marks. There was still a great reflection and could barely notice these scratches. But, I’m planning on selling my car so I wanted to do a complete detail. After a good Wash and Claying, I tried Swirl X first and it was not getting them out no matter what I tried. So, I stepped up to Ultimate Compound. I did it by hand and worked on it all day long. It seemed to be working and got most of the Scratches out! I was happy it looked great!<?xml:namespace prefix = v ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" /><v:shapetype id=_x0000_t75 stroked="f" filled="f" path="m@4@5l@4@11@9@11@9@5xe" o:preferrelative="t" o:spt="75" coordsize="21600,21600"> </v:shapetype> But, later when I grabbed a powerful flashlight for something I decided to shine it on my car. What I seen were Billions of tiny Swirl marks that destroyed the look of my car! I was not happy. So I stopped what I was doing and tried Swirl X and Scratch X Nothing! What happened? As far as I know I did everything the way I was supposed to. What can I do? I’m afraid to take my car outside into the sun. I might faint!

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[mb911]

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watson -

Removing an entire car's defects by hand is a daunting process. I would never attempt it. You worked incredibly hard, and yet you are still disappointed by the results, this is why I would not attempt this.

Furthermore, one thing you can do, is do a "test spot," say a 12-inch square, back the car into the sun and see if improved the appearance, to know if your techniques and products are working.

However, again, I personally wouldn't attempt to remove an entire vehicle's swirls by hand, it's hard enough for me with a DA.

[rusty bumper]

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watson -

Removing an entire car's defects by hand is a daunting process. I would never attempt it. You worked incredibly hard, and yet you are still disappointed by the results, this is why I would not attempt this.

Furthermore, one thing you can do, is do a "test spot," say a 12-inch square, back the car into the sun and see if improved the appearance, to know if your techniques and products are working.

However, again, I personally wouldn't attempt to remove an entire vehicle's swirls by hand, it's hard enough for me with a DA.

It can be done, but I'm not sure if I have the patience for it...or the arm, lol.

Some scratches need professional help via a rotary buffer.

[mb911]

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It can be done, but I'm not sure if I have the patience for it...or the arm, lol.

Some scratches need professional help via a rotary buffer.

Yeah, I hope I didn't sound too down on it.

It's just, I find it a challenge enough with a DA polisher. In fact, I never do my entire car in one session. I do the front one week, and the back another week.

I can't imagine hand work of an entire vehicle besides the fun detailing like pure polish and wax.

Plus, on some cars, it might be nearly impossible depending on the paint and the defects needing removal as you mentioned.


If working only by hand, besides specific areas that might need particular attention, I always tended to just stick with claying, maybe some #7 to hide things a bit, and a nice sealant/wax. This still results in a car looking better than 99 percent of them out there, probably 99.9 percent.

[rusty bumper]

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Yeah, I hope I didn't sound too down on it.

It's just, I find it a challenge enough with a DA polisher. In fact, I never do my entire car in one session. I do the front one week, and the back another week.

I can't imagine hand work of an entire vehicle besides the fun detailing like pure polish and wax.

Plus, on some cars, it might be nearly impossible depending on the paint and the defects needing removal as you mentioned.


If working only by hand, besides specific areas that might need particular attention, I always tended to just stick with claying, maybe some #7 to hide things a bit, and a nice sealant/wax. This still results in a car looking better than 99 percent of them out there, probably 99.9 percent.

That's me in a nutshell.

I like to take my time anyway and do it right.

[bee0818]

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Looking for some help:

I finally opened up a PC 7336 I ordered years ago to work on a 2007 jet black BMW X5 we purchased a few months ago. The cars paint was in decent condition with the usual swirl marks from improper washing. I washed and clayed the car. I purchased swirlx, scratchx and UC so I would have all my bases covered. I was anticipating only needing the swirlx but once I got started, it didn't do much. Attempted a second pass but same result. I was using an orange polishing pad from griots. I then moved up to the UC, but really didn't get much improvement. It seemed to take out the water spots and clean the paint a bit, but the swirls pretty much stayed untouched. I was using the PC at 5 and really working the compound. Based on the reviews in this thread, it seems as if there is some user error going on. Am I not using an aggressive enough pad? Am I not getting much in the way of results due to the paint hardness or thickness?

Thanks in advance for any help.

[davey g-force]

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^^ How much pressure were you applying?
Are you certain the PC was actually spinning and not just vibrating on the spot?
How fast were you moving? You need to slow your arm speed right down and use patience when correcting defects.

[bee0818]

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^^ How much pressure were you applying?
Are you certain the PC was actually spinning and not just vibrating on the spot?
How fast were you moving? You need to slow your arm speed right down and use patience when correcting defects.

I didn't put much pressure, so the pad was definitely spinning. Would more pressure help? I was also moving pretty slow and tried to let the pc and compound really work. I made a number of passes but just couldn't get much correction.

[FRS]

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^^ How much pressure were you applying?
Are you certain the PC was actually spinning and not just vibrating on the spot?
How fast were you moving? You need to slow your arm speed right down and use patience when correcting defects.

I believe that vibrating only can produce stunning results, let alone spinning ..

[davey g-force]

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I believe that vibrating only can produce stunning results, let alone spinning ..

Yeah but it depends on the paint you're working on.

If he is not achieving the desired correction, a spinning pad will definitely help.