which speed on rotary?

[dustleet]

i want to hear as many voices as possible from rotary users/pros.
speed settings on rotary (rpm) for
-swirl/scratch removing &
-polishing
(yes it will be all different for diff situations/users but i like to know what works best for you- in most situations! thanks)

[Markus Kleis]

Re: which speed on rotary?

Like you mentioned, it varies GREATLY. So much so, there isn't even any type of acceptable answer that could be given as the questio is phrased.

For example, removing the same type of defects could be done with X number of different products, each of which may have entirely different ranges and optimal speeds. Then factor in pad choice, weather, and how many steps you plan on using, and you have yourself an impossible to answer question.

Any chance you could share a little more info about what you are looking to do?

What are you working on?

What products?

My best advice would be to fiddle around with the search function, and read through write-ups by detailers. See both their answer, and their application together.

[Mike Phillips]

Re: which speed on rotary?

Since this was your first post to our forum,

Welcome to Meguiar's Online!




The 1400 to 1500 RPM range is a good general purpose range on a rotary buffer for most correction work. After you get a feel for how your favorite products work with your favorite buffing pads you can adjust faster or slower but when working on clear coat paints you don't want to overheat them do in most cases 1500 is more than enough for removing defects.

Are you working on your own cars or starting a detailing business or working in a body shop wet-sanding, cutting and buffing fresh paint?

[Megafast13]

Re: which speed on rotary?

I have never had to go over 1500rpm. Maybe someday wetsanding a single stage paint, but that isn't likely to happen

[dustleet]

Re: which speed on rotary?

thanks for the quick replies & welcome.

yes. i want to start on my own vehicle first and happen to get my hands on a cheap rotary polisher. (only 2 settings thou. 2100 & 2400 rpm. black & decker rotary polisher old model)
i've been detailing my own car with hands and was searching for power tools.
it will be mostly for corrections (swirls.scratches.oxidation) on clear coat paints.
i've read a lot of threads in this site as well as many other detailing forums...
and for me, i dont want to spend too much $ but also want to get a solid tool that
won't break on me in a year and so,
i decided to post it here b/c of the quick responses.

Mike, i've read your guides and responses alot in many threads,
what would you recommend as in tools.... (i've narrowed it to these two- )
i don't want to spend too much but it looks to me that the PC 7424 and Makita 9227C
are the best tools in my eyes... (and they are about $50 different)
i understand that they both have pros and cons and although i'm a beginner in
"using power tools" but i don't mind starting with rotary also.
is PC as solid as Makita? and vice versa?
i don't know which one i should get...
i'm not using it for business/shop. its just for my car and maybe few friends/family members.
thanks again.

[Markus Kleis]

Re: which speed on rotary?

I'm not Mike, or trying to answer FOR Mike...but my 2 cents on your recent post:
One, if you truly have no real experience buffing at all on paint then I really recommend starting with a dual action polisher. Very very few people start off with a rotary, and heck, a relatively small amount of people ever even end up with one!

As for reliability between the PC and the Makita, being as I own both (I have the original G100 by Meguiars, which was a re-branded PC 7424) *The new G110 is actually a newer unit with 30% more power!) I would say they are both solid, well built tools.

I love my Makita- a lot. But, at thew same time I love My g110 because it is so simple and easy to use. Rotaries are also limited to correction work as very few waxes work well via rotary, where as a DA buffers can do correction work and spread waxes.

For that reason, coupled with your lack of actual experience, I say go for a PC 7424 or a G110. But that's just my personal opinion

[irf@n]

Re: which speed on rotary?

The 1400 to 1500 RPM range is a good general purpose range on a rotary buffer for most correction work. After you get a feel for how your favorite products work with your favorite buffing pads you can adjust faster or slower but when working on clear coat paints you don't want to overheat them do in most cases 1500 is more than enough for removing defects.

Are you working on your own cars or starting a detailing business or working in a body shop wet-sanding, cutting and buffing fresh paint?

When I put the pad on the surface for correction the speed decreases...

Actually I wonder, is that 1400-1500 rpm speeds "no-load speed" (free rotating speed) of the rotary buffer?

[Markus Kleis]

Re: which speed on rotary?

When I put the pad on the surface for correction the speed decreases...

Actually I wonder, is that 1400-1500 rpm speeds "no-load speed" (free rotating speed) of the rotary buffer?

This shouldn't occur with proper power and a good machine. At the most my Makita might dip in speed for a brief moment...but it regains after that.

Either way, the speed refers to the unloaded speed. It isn't an exact science, so if your buffer slows slightly it won't be the end of the world... just adjust accordingly if the results aren't what you are looking for.

[dustleet]

Re: which speed on rotary?

thanks for the the great inputs. Mark
ok i'm leading more towards buying the DA orbitals...
i've read in other forums that Meguiar branded polishers (ie G100 or G110) offer
life time warranty. so as soon as i get that clarified, i think i'm going to place an order.
Most likely G110. thanks again.

[Andy M.]

Re: which speed on rotary?

I have to agree with Mark. Most of us who graduate to a rotary, try it out on a junk yard hood or something first. That way if you burn the paint it doesn't matter. The G110 or G100 won't burn paint.

Andy

[Markus Kleis]

Re: which speed on rotary?

thanks for the the great inputs. Mark
ok i'm leading more towards buying the DA orbitals...
i've read in other forums that Meguiar branded polishers (ie G100 or G110) offer
life time warranty. so as soon as i get that clarified, i think i'm going to place an order.
Most likely G110. thanks again.

The G100 had a lifetime warranty, but is no longer sold. the new G110 has a 1 year warranty, but a crucial extra 30% power than the old model (PC 7424).

As an owner of both, I can say that extra power is very useful. I don't reach for the G100 anymore- it's there as a backup.

[irf@n]

Re: which speed on rotary?

This shouldn't occur with proper power and a good machine. At the most my Makita might dip in speed for a brief moment...but it regains after that.

Either way, the speed refers to the unloaded speed. It isn't an exact science, so if your buffer slows slightly it won't be the end of the world... just adjust accordingly if the results aren't what you are looking for.

Thank You