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    question on detailing

    Hey guys, i have a few questions on detailing. First of all i have a 2008 ford ranger and im wanting to keep the paint in perfect condition and have very few swirl marks as possible but cant seem to do that because every time i wax it i dont remove all the swirls and the swirls that i do remove come back the next time the truck is washed. So the question is, what kind of products do yall suggest for me to use to get rid of swirl marks and them not come back when i wash my truck, and i do plan on buying the meguirs da polisher in the next week so that might help remove more than i usualy remove when waxing by hand right?

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    Hi, Scott. The reason the swirls return after you wash your truck is because they were never removed to begin with. Applying a coat of wax does not remove swirls and scratches. A coat of wax simply provides a thin layer of protection. It might also temporarily hide the swirls by making them more difficult to see. If you want to remove swirls and scratches permanently, you will need to polish off a thin layer of paint. I encourage you to read through these two short pieces:

    What it Means to Remove a Scratch

    How To Remove Swirls By Hand

    Purchasing a D/A polisher is a wise investment. Machine polishing is infinitely easier and more effective than hand polishing. You will also need to purchase pads and polishes. Meguiar's has a number of different polishes from which to choose. Here's a brief introduction:

    The Skinny on Meguiar's D/A Polishes

    I would suggest that you give Rick a call at Auto Detailing Solutions. He can put together a good package for you.

    Also check out Dave McLean's Dual Action Polishing Guide.

    You may also find of interest my Internet Resources for Detailing Newbs.

    Good luck and have fun!

    Cheers,
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    Re: question on detailing

    You will also want to make sure you are washing properly, so as not to add more swirls.

    Here are a few other links, just in case they are missing from Al's guide (though I am sure he included them), and as his other links shows you can replace the #80 with the #20 if you would like. A few of the instructional threads are a couple years old of course.

    Meguiar's 5-Step Paint Care Cycle
    Step 1 Wash
    Step 2 Clean
    Step 3 Polish
    Step 4 Protect
    Step 5 Maintain

    Suggested Products for Taking Care of a New Car

    How to Wash Your Car Show Car Style

    How To Remove a Bird Dropping Etching by Hand using M105 Ultra Cut Compound

    How to correctly apply ScratchX to remove swirls and scratches

    Rotary vs. PC vs. Regular Orbital Buffer

    Recommended Products - G100a Dual Action Polisher

    Using the G-100 to remove swirls with the Professional Line

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    MOL is awesome... thanks for handling the links guys!
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    Re: question on detailing

    Quote Originally Posted by 20ranger08 View Post
    So the question is, what kind of products do yall suggest for me to use to get rid of swirl marks and them not come back when i wash my truck,
    Just as important as removing the swirls is washing the truck and specifically the paint in a way that you don't put swirls and scratches back into the paint.

    Clear coat paints are easily scratches and the scratches show up easily to your eyes.

    If this is a daily driver, parked outside all of the time, then it's going to be pretty hard to maintain a 100% swirl free finish all the time.

    If you're working by hand then you're going to want to get some Ultimate Compound and some SwirlX and then a wax of your choice.

    Figure on 3-5 hours to rub the paint out by hand for just the compounding step as you can't tackle large sections at a time and you can't do it quickly.

    I posted some info about this recently, I'll repost it here later today.

    Click on the images to go to their dedicated threads...


    Swirl and Scratch Removers

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    Scott, I just sent a PM. You are close to me so lets talk, bring your supplies and I will be glad to coach you through the process. I have a couple of PC's so we can tackle those pesky swirls. Hands on learning.
    al
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaintPolisher View Post
    Scott, I just sent a PM. You are close to me so lets talk, bring your supplies and I will be glad to coach you through the process. I have a couple of PC's so we can tackle those pesky swirls. Hands on learning.
    Swirls hide in the black molecular depths, only waiting for the right time to emerge and destroy your sanity.
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    Re: question on detailing

    thanks for the help guys!
    all those links have been real helpful

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    Re: question on detailing

    1. Wash--NXT Wash, 2 Buckets, 2 Grit Guards, Microfiber Wash Mitt

    2. Clay Surface--Smooth Surface Clay Kit

    3. Cleaner/Polish--Ultimate Compound

    4. Cleaner/Finish Polish--SwirlX

    5. Wax--NXT 2.0 Tech Wax

    6.Maintain--Ultimate Quik Detailer

    All of those products can be found at www.autodetailingsolutions.com

    They are all by Meguiar's.

    Scratch X 2.0 also works great for spot work.

    Read all of the links above to get an idea on how to do things. Welcome to MOL!
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