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  • #16
    Re: I wish we had a Meguiar's chemist

    Here's a random example: IIRC M16 is a heavy wax meaning high molecular weight and hard. It has a high concentration of strong organic solvents to dissolve the harder wax making it an issue here in the US as far as volatile organic compounds (VOCs) are concerned. Since it is a hard wax, it mechanically bonds well and lasts a long time which, in addition to its appearance (due to the type of wax used), is why people like it so much. Candle wax is very soft and would not last long.


    I appriciate the response Sandstone. So, what kind of organic and VOC compounds would car wax have?
    Sleepy

    Love the Classics!

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    • #17
      Re: I wish we had a Meguiar's chemist

      If your curious, dig up an MSDS sheet which will show a chemical abstract # (CAS #) under something like "petroleum distillates" in the composition section. Then look up the CAS # to id the solvent. If you don't have a chemical background the info will be fairly meaningless. There are many compounds that fall under the proprietary umbrella and are thus not disclosed. Wax dissolves in petroleum distillates such a mineral spirits and paint thinner. There are a bazillion solvents and most are a blend and not a pure compound. None of this really matters...just use what you like and what works for you.

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      • #18
        Re: I wish we had a Meguiar's chemist

        Sandstone, my understanding is that pure synthetic sealants bond to the paint differently than do carnauba-style waxes. Can you confirm this, and if this is true, can you explain, in layman's terms, the difference. Thanks!

        Al
        Swirls hide in the black molecular depths, only waiting for the right time to emerge and destroy your sanity.
        --Al Kimel

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        • #19
          Re: I wish we had a Meguiar's chemist

          Hello, Al.

          I am curious as to why you are particularly interested in knowing how waxes are bonded to paint surfaces. Would obtaining such knowledge enhance our polishing/waxing techniques? Keep me in the loop; I am very interested to know what you have up your sleeves that may enhance our performance in detailing.

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          • #20
            Re: I wish we had a Meguiar's chemist

            Originally posted by the_invisible View Post
            Hello, Al.

            I am curious as to why you are particularly interested in knowing how waxes are bonded to paint surfaces. Would obtaining such knowledge enhance our polishing/waxing techniques? Keep me in the loop; I am very interested to know what you have up your sleeves that may enhance our performance in detailing.
            Actually, I don't think knowing how different waxes bond will affect my detailing performance at all. I'm just curious.
            Swirls hide in the black molecular depths, only waiting for the right time to emerge and destroy your sanity.
            --Al Kimel

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            • #21
              Re: I wish we had a Meguiar's chemist

              Originally posted by akimel View Post
              Actually, I don't think knowing how different waxes bond will affect my detailing performance at all. I'm just curious.
              Haha, I love you Al

              Ok, well, you know what I mean...

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              • #22
                Re: I wish we had a Meguiar's chemist

                This is definitely a great idea, it would be cool to hear from the men, and women that come up with all these great product ideas, as well as their insight on how they approach creating formulations to address specific problems.
                Erik Mejia

                Polishing Paint removes the stress in my life, and the swirls on my car.

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                • #23
                  Re: I wish we had a Meguiar's chemist

                  Originally posted by Mark Kleis View Post
                  Haha, I love you Al
                  You're not getting my Bud Light, Mark!
                  Swirls hide in the black molecular depths, only waiting for the right time to emerge and destroy your sanity.
                  --Al Kimel

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                  • #24
                    Re: I wish we had a Meguiar's chemist

                    Originally posted by akimel View Post
                    You're not getting my Bud Light, Mark!
                    Haha, Al, once a tease, always a tease

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                    • #25
                      Re: I wish we had a Meguiar's chemist

                      Let's see...

                      A wax sticking to paint is like a beautiful woman who likes you, is holding your hand and won't let go of it. She's attached but is just holding on.

                      A synthetic is you liking that woman, your heart is beating fast, etc since there is this unknown force, chemisty or magnetism that connects you to her.

                      M21/NXT are the best of both...physical and chemical attraction. Or you could say they look good and smell good.

                      PS Rep points please

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                      • #26
                        Re: I wish we had a Meguiar's chemist

                        Originally posted by Sandstone View Post
                        PS Rep points please
                        There's something sad and pathetic about a man begging for rep points.
                        Swirls hide in the black molecular depths, only waiting for the right time to emerge and destroy your sanity.
                        --Al Kimel

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                        • #27
                          Re: I wish we had a Meguiar's chemist

                          Thankie Sai. Hey, I figured asking for help with getting email notifications was pointless. I don't know why they never work for me. I do get a stray one every once in a while but they are usually weeks old.

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                          • #28
                            Re: I wish we had a Meguiar's chemist

                            Originally posted by akimel View Post
                            There's something sad and pathetic about a man begging for rep points.

                            Id give you more Rep points Al, but I don't think they can fit anymore little green boxes next to your name.

                            Interesting topic though, cool to know the science behind the art.
                            "Every moment frontin and maxin
                            Chillin in the car they spent all day waxin
                            "

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                            • #29
                              Re: I wish we had a Meguiar's chemist

                              Originally posted by Zuke View Post
                              Id give you more Rep points Al, but I don't think they can fit anymore little green boxes next to your name.
                              Touche!

                              I have perhaps received more undeserved rep points than anyone on this forum. I certainly have enough to last me a couple of life times!

                              But I do gleefully enjoy giving rep points to those who contribute helplful articles and comments.
                              Swirls hide in the black molecular depths, only waiting for the right time to emerge and destroy your sanity.
                              --Al Kimel

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                              • #30
                                Re: I wish we had a Meguiar's chemist

                                Online chemist.......Good idea.

                                I find products and their properties interesting.

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