Product, Pad and Speed settings for the G110 Dual Action Polisher - Updated!

[ClearlyCoated]

Re: Product, Pad and Speed settings for the G110 Dual Action Polisher - Updated!

I just bought a new g110v2 and it recommended using 8207. With the 8207, how will it affect the usage of polish and waxes? Will the cheat sheet on this thread still be applicable?

The 8207 (7" Polishing pad) is the pad most commonly used, but you will also want to have a few finishing pads (9207) on hand. The finishing pad is softer and can be used with great effectiveness on soft paints, or to apply waxes or sealants.

The mantra here (least aggressive method) is always preferable to achieve optimum results. That said, it is best practice to have multiple pads to effect a complete detail on even one vehicle. For a full sized sedan, I would try to have at least 4 polishing pads and two finishing pads. For a larger vehicle like a truck, a mix of 6 polishing pads and three finishing would probably be a good ratio.

Change out your pads if using different polishes, and/or change out your pads after completing a series of panels. For instance, I use a separate pad for my horizontal surfaces (hood, roof, trunk lid), another for my vertical surfaces (doors and fenders) and another for my front and rear bumper covers. And I clean my pads on the fly every 2 or 3 applications.

[sleepy]

Re: Product, Pad and Speed settings for the G110 Dual Action Polisher - Updated!

Wow, that is a lot of pads. But I have a lot of regular app, hand pads too so I can see the need for all the pads. Thanks ClearlyCoated.

[ClearlyCoated]

Re: Product, Pad and Speed settings for the G110 Dual Action Polisher - Updated!

Wow, that is a lot of pads. But I have a lot of regular app, hand pads too so I can see the need for all the pads. Thanks ClearlyCoated.

You're in luck ADS is having a one week special on 7" pads. 6 pads, mix and match, for $50.

[sleepy]

Re: Product, Pad and Speed settings for the G110 Dual Action Polisher - Updated!

You're in luck ADS is having a one week special on 7" pads. 6 pads, mix and match, for $50.

I wish I had known about ADS, the G110v2 is $30 cheaper than Meg direct. They can not be any slower. I ordered the g110 thurs. and it still shows that it is still in the warehouse.

[hemi]

Re: Product, Pad and Speed settings for the G110 Dual Action Polisher - Updated!

The 8207 (7" Polishing pad) is the pad most commonly used, but you will also want to have a few finishing pads (9207) on hand. The finishing pad is softer and can be used with great effectiveness on soft paints, or to apply waxes or sealants.

The mantra here (least aggressive method) is always preferable to achieve optimum results. That said, it is best practice to have multiple pads to effect a complete detail on even one vehicle. For a full sized sedan, I would try to have at least 4 polishing pads and two finishing pads. For a larger vehicle like a truck, a mix of 6 polishing pads and three finishing would probably be a good ratio.

Change out your pads if using different polishes, and/or change out your pads after completing a series of panels. For instance, I use a separate pad for my horizontal surfaces (hood, roof, trunk lid), another for my vertical surfaces (doors and fenders) and another for my front and rear bumper covers. And I clean my pads on the fly every 2 or 3 applications.

Thanks for the info,ordered the g110 today.Also comes with 6 pads. I got 2 black finish, 3 yellow polish, and 1 burgundy cut pad.

[hemi]

Re: Product, Pad and Speed settings for the G110 Dual Action Polisher - Updated!

The list above is only a starting point. Ultimately which products you choose will be determined by your skill, the condition of the paint, how hard or "polishable" the paint is, and your personal preferences - especially with regard to your final wax selection.

Some other things to keep in mind when working with the G110v2/G220v2 (or similar) dual action polisher:

1) Pressure – How much pressure you apply to the pad will increase the “cutting action” of the pad/liquid combination. In some cases this is needed, and in other case this could be detrimental to the surface. Generally speaking you will use more pressure when correcting defects and less when applying a wax.

2) OPM – By increasing the OPM (oscillations per minute) of the machine, you automatically increase the action of the machine. This means additional “cutting action” when using products that have defect removal capability. If you’re simply spreading a wax or pure polish, however, you should reduce the speed of the machine for this step.

3) Arm Speed – The quicker you move your arms back and forth, the less chance the product has to do it job. Slow down your arm speed to give the pad/liquid combination more time to concentrate the work over a given area. When applying a wax you can move the machine a bit more quickly, but still move the machine in purposeful movements to ensure a thorough and even application of the wax.

4) Work Area - Just as your arm speed determines how much time the pad/liquid combination can work a given area, so does the overall size of the area being worked. Shrink your work area down to no more than 2' x 2'. Don't try to work the entire hood of your vehicle at once; you'll be spreading the work over too large an area, run the risk of product drying out, and diminish the overall effectiveness of the product. The work area changes dramatically when applying wax as you can now cover all the painted surfaces at once.

5) Pad Choice – The more aggressive the pad, the more “cutting” action will take place. You must first evaluate your finish, determine your goal, and then choose the appropriate pad to do the job. Generally a W8207 Soft Buff 2.0 Polishing Pad will be used with a paint cleaner or cleaner/polish to remove defects. For applying a pure polish or wax you would select a W9207 Soft Buff 2.0 Finishing Pad.

6) Product Choice - The more severe the defect, the more aggressive the product needed to remove them. Heavy swirls in hard paint will be a big challenge for a mild cleaner/polish while a dedicated paint cleaner may make very short work of them. Determining which product is right for the job is best determined by doing a test spot first and evaluating the results. There is nothing more frustrating than just jumping in with a randomly selected product and working over the entire vehicle, only to find it wasn't effective at removing the defects. On the flip side, there is no reason to use an overly aggressive product in a situation where a mild approach would yield the same result.

Thanks, great chart ! I am a firm believer in taking something complicated and making it simple and clear. Nice job.

[Detale]

Re: Product, Pad and Speed settings for the G110 Dual Action Polisher - Updated!

We don't have a chart specific to that machine, sorry. Since the 3401 runs at higher OPM than the G110 you may want to just dial it down a notch compared to the settings shown in the chart.

Actually,the Flex 3401 does not orbit as fast as the G110v2. The Flex 3401 MAX OPM(speed 6) is 4800. The G110v2 is 6800 MAX OPM(speed 6). However, as you know, the 3401 is forced rotation and has a larger orbit. Taking these things into consideration, would you still say to take it down one notch with 3401?

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Product, Pad and Speed settings for the G110 Dual Action Polisher - Updated!

Actually,the Flex 3401 does not orbit as fast as the G110v2. The Flex 3401 MAX OPM(speed 6) is 4800. The G110v2 is 6800 MAX OPM(speed 6). However, as you know, the 3401 is forced rotation and has a larger orbit. Taking these things into consideration, would you still say to take it down one notch with 3401?

Yes, because of the forced rotation nature of the Flex. The Flex will behave more like a rotary when you apply pressure - it won't really bog down.

[Detale]

Re: Product, Pad and Speed settings for the G110 Dual Action Polisher - Updated!

M105 can tackle anything, but with a polishing pad(M8207)? I would think you need at least an LC light cutting(orange) pad to tackle heavy defects.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Product, Pad and Speed settings for the G110 Dual Action Polisher - Updated!

M105 can tackle anything, but with a polishing pad(M8207)? I would think you need at least an LC light cutting(orange) pad to tackle heavy defects.

Totally depends on the paint and the skill of the user. In some cases M105 is going to be total overkill as it is the strongest product we make. Have a look at this thread by Nick Chapman where he corrected a fairly well messed up BMW using a W8207 yellow foam polishing pad on a G110v2..... and just D151 PRC, which is nowhere near as aggressive as M105.

[csxs1]

Re: Product, Pad and Speed settings for the G110 Dual Action Polisher - Updated!

Noob Question: When you refer to these pads are you referring to using these pads as an applicator or to remove the product or both? I just bought a PC D/A so just trying to learn.

Thanks!

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Product, Pad and Speed settings for the G110 Dual Action Polisher - Updated!

The pads used on a D/A are for application of the various products. Removal is with a microfiber towel.

[rherring16]

Re: Product, Pad and Speed settings for the G110 Dual Action Polisher - Updated!

Why is the W7207 cutting pad not included? Also, what would you use it for?

[Ryan_Bihun89]

Re: Product, Pad and Speed settings for the G110 Dual Action Polisher - Updated!

Why is the W7207 cutting pad not included? Also, what would you use it for?

This pad is not intented to be used with DA.

[FRS]

Re: Product, Pad and Speed settings for the G110 Dual Action Polisher - Updated!

What's the size of the backing plate that comes with G110v2?