Rubbing Compound & Polishing Compound

[hacker-pschorr]

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It's interesting that these Rubbing Compound and Polishing Compound products use the older diminishing abrasive technology. I suspect that these are targeted more at the average consumer than Ultimate Compound and SwirlX. I'll be interested to see how they compare.

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For the average Joe staring at the car care products at Autozone, these two products will be more familiar to them.
I personally do not see myself needed these (with a full arsenal of M81, 82, 83, 105 etc...) in the garage. This is an excellent idea to target the general audience. Dropping DC-1 makes a bit more sense now.

[Michael Stoops]

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I am a little confused by the polishing compound, as the word "polish" in Meguiar's vocab is reserved for products such as DC-2, M07, etc...

Anyway, for $5.99, or cheaper at local retailers, why not?

Yes, and we debated the word "polish" here, but it does indeed contain polish along with the light cleaners so the term does fit.

It's interesting that these Rubbing Compound and Polishing Compound products use the older diminishing abrasive technology. I suspect that these are targeted more at the average consumer than Ultimate Compound and SwirlX. I'll be interested to see how they compare.

You'll notice the price difference between SMAT products like M105 and diminishing abrasive products like M80 - to be able to work in this price range the diminishing abrasive was the way to go. Besides, it is a long proven technology with years of great success.

So why would I turn to the rubbing compound vs. UC or 105?
Would this be better for spot correction rather then rubbing out the whole car?
From what I gather Mr Stoops, this isn't our fathers rubbing compound.

No, it isn't your father's compound at all, not even close. Why choose this over the other products mentioned? For many people, price alone will be a major factor.

so id assume with my 70 year old 1939 Dodge, this may be a better product than a DA powered M105/205 as the paint is VERY old and im quite sure thin in some areas?

If the paint is that old and thin you want to tread very lightly with it. M205 is very mild as is the Polishing Compound from this pair. Working by hand may well be less aggressive than working by D/A, unless you really push hard by hand but use the D/A on speed 2 with light pressure. See where we're going here? It's not always what product you choose, but how you use it.

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For the average Joe staring at the car care products at Autozone, these two products will be more familiar to them.

Absolutely 100% dead on.

[Underdawg736]

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Thank you Mr Stoops for answering all of our questions! There'll be hundreds more so I'd grab a coffee, large can of Red Bull, and a 5 hour power shot if I were you!

Well, I'm on a budget now, so I'm thinking on picking these up to compliment my UC. Still can't get over about what I did to my 105.

[Murr1525]

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I'm curious if there was something UC or SwirlX were not able to do by hand? Or is this merely to have a lower price point, and the SwirlX/UC is still higher end, more effective?

[Michael Stoops]

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I'm curious if there was something UC or SwirlX were not able to do by hand? Or is this merely to have a lower price point, and the SwirlX/UC is still higher end, more effective?

Lower price point is part of it, just being a paste is another part of the picture.

Keep in mind, these two new products are definitely not recommend for use with a D/A polisher - they are hand application only.

[Calais]

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Keep in mind, these two new products are definitely not recommend for use with a D/A polisher - they are hand application only.

Scary scenario: rotary with 4" cutting pad and rubbing compound. "I just wanted to get those swirls out quicker!" Expect calls to customer service asking for reimbursement for tons of severely damaged paint by people who haven't a clue what they are doing and do not know how to read labels.

[tcope1]

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With the intro of these two products I think Meg's is opening a can of worms. From what I read, these are going to be consumer products (i.e. worked by hand, not machine). The problem I'm seeing with SwirlX, ColorX, ScratchX 2.0, Ultimate Compound, Polishing Compound, Rubbing Compound, etc. is that the consumer is going to be way to confused as to what product to use in different situations. While I can hope, I just don't think the label is going to give enough information.

I'd like to see Megs come out with some type of quick ref guide or chart that they could either have the parts stores display or allow the part store employee to have an idea of what should be recommended. Even in this thread people want to have this information.

Example... when does someone use Polishing Compound instead of Ultimate Compound, etc.

Just a suggestion.

[john m.]

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So, being a hand application and such. Would you say that this would be more ideal for a certain area on a car that scratchx cant do but you dont want to bust out a DA?

Not sure if that makes any sense

[Murr1525]

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Thanks Mike,

Maybe to re-state my other question a little... If I already have SwirlX and UC, what situation are these an advantage in?

[Tuck91]

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Im suprised they utilize DAT and not SMAT....

[Andrew C.]

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You'll notice the price difference between SMAT products like M105 and diminishing abrasive products like M80 - to be able to work in this price range the diminishing abrasive was the way to go. Besides, it is a long proven technology with years of great success.
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This is why

[Michael Stoops]

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Thanks Mike,

Maybe to re-state my other question a little... If I already have SwirlX and UC, what situation are these an advantage in?

Their biggest advantage - in their price point they destroy anything else on the market. Ease of use, effectiveness of defect removal, non-scouring formulation, clarity of finish. When this is the specific kind of product a consumer has in mind, nothing else comes close.

[tcope1]

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Their biggest advantage - in their price point they destroy anything else on the market. Ease of use, effectiveness of defect removal, non-scouring formulation, clarity of finish. When this is the specific kind of product a consumer has in mind, nothing else comes close.

I'd hope that Megs would not release something that they thought was already bested by others on the market. But I don't think that really addresses the question. That is kind of the point in my prior post... there needs to be some scale or chart showing where these new products fit. If they are different then what is already on the market, how are they different. Good example... how is polishing or rubbing compound different then UC (both are consumer products)?

[Ganesa]

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Im suprised they utilize DAT and not SMAT....

I'd had to agree.. I really thought they would contain SMAT and not DAT..
but could the purpose probably be so that it wont be as fast and aggresive in cutting, because you have to break the product down?? who knows..

[cnfowler]

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You'll notice the price difference between SMAT products like M105 and diminishing abrasive products like M80 - to be able to work in this price range the diminishing abrasive was the way to go. Besides, it is a long proven technology with years of great success.

Mr. Stoops has already answered that question. Price is the reason.

Colin