Ultimate Wash & Wax

[Murr1525]

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Certainly a promising winter product.....

[Gemini13]

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The only one I have not tried would be the D Line Super Soap. As soon as I UW&W see this product at Walmart or any auto parts store I will be cleaning out the shelf. I just know its gonna be a winner.

Its not a bad soap. I got a 32oz sampler from ADS when I purchased a foam gun from them. Yeah I think I'm gonna be grabbing some of this as well....

[Michael Stoops]

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The only one I have not tried would be the D Line Super Soap. As soon as I UW&W see this product at Walmart or any auto parts store I will be cleaning out the shelf. I just know its gonna be a winner.

Its not a bad soap. I got a 32oz sampler from ADS when I purchased a foam gun from them. Yeah I think I'm gonna be grabbing some of this as well....

Let me share a personal experience with this soap. As stated earlier, when I used this on my PT I was able to dry the car with a single Water Magnet for the first time ever. I use a Gilmour foam gun pretty regularly and was really excited to try UW&W in it since it suds like crazy in a bucket. My normal car wash is Gold Glass and I love the slickness it leaves on a well maintained finish. It's not the craziest foaming soap out there, but then again it wasn't really designed with that specific use in mind. Super Soap, being formulated for light pressure washes as an option, foams quite a bit more and by design it breaks down very quickly and rinses away very cleanly.

Well, I got a bit of a surprise with UW&W in the foam gun. It actually foamed less than Gold Class! As it turned out, that didn't really matter. What did matter was that, when using a foam gun, you can't help but get a good bit of dwell time on the paint. Let's face it, you shoot that foam all over the car and then get to work on each section, probably adding more foam as you go. Compared to bucket washing, the dwell time can be much, much longer. And, provided you don't go so long as to let UW&W dry on the surface (something you never want to do with any soap) this extended dwell time yields the maximum potential of the dispersed wax. Even with a light rinse, UW&W rinsed cleanly and thoroughly from the paint. So thoroughly, in fact, that there wasn't much water left on the paint at all. Hence the ability to dry the car with a single Water Magnet. Very cool.

[AndrewR/T]

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Interesting. Might be good product to use on my DD. I've always been a fan of NXT soap, but it's been getting harder to find in stores.

[CumminsCrazed]

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so michael.....with the first "application" of UW&W it beaded up well enough to bead and run majority of the rinse water off the paint finish?

[cnfowler]

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so michael.....with the first "application" of UW&W it beaded up well enough to bead and run majority of the rinse water off the paint finish?

Zach, I believe that's exactly what Mr. Stoops is eluding to. Hence the ability to dry the car with only one water magnet. When you can dry your car with one water magnet when it normally takes two means there is less water left on the car after rinsing.

Colin

[Andrew C.]

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Compared to bucket washing, the dwell time can be much, much longer. And, provided you don't go so long as to let UW&W dry on the surface (something you never want to do with any soap) this extended dwell time yields the maximum potential of the dispersed wax.

So Mike, say your car has grime and dirt on it and you use this soap on it. Wouldn't it need to come in contact with the paint rather than sit on top of the dirt? Wouldn't you need to wash the dirt first ?

[captaincog]

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I could try some of this since I have always used quick wax during drying....

[Erik Mejia]

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Does UW&W provide more lubricity than GC?

[imacarnut]

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After you are done washing and drying.. If you follow up with a QD (ie. last touch), will it remove any of the UW&W?

[HealthyCivic]

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Mike, I have one question if you don't mind:

How does UW&W compare to Gold Class in terms of lubricity? The lubricity is the reason why I use GC because my ultimate goal when washing is to prevent as many swirls as possible whilst still cleaning the car. Is UW&W more like NXT Wash in this way or is the lubricity on par (or perhaps more) than GC? Thanks a lot.

[JSM]

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Mike, I have one question if you don't mind:

How does UW&W compare to Gold Class in terms of lubricity? The lubricity is the reason why I use GC because my ultimate goal when washing is to prevent as many swirls as possible whilst still cleaning the car. Is UW&W more like NXT Wash in this way or is the lubricity on par (or perhaps more) than GC? Thanks a lot.

From my experience, I believe it's more important to emphasize technique and tools used rather than just soap alone.

[Michael Stoops]

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so michael.....with the first "application" of UW&W it beaded up well enough to bead and run majority of the rinse water off the paint finish?

Yes, but keep in mind this was on a very well maintained vehicle with a good coat of wax on it. This product is NOT a substitute for a proper waxing, and if you have a neglected finish don't expect miracles!

So Mike, say your car has grime and dirt on it and you use this soap on it. Wouldn't it need to come in contact with the paint rather than sit on top of the dirt? Wouldn't you need to wash the dirt first ?

Wipe your wash mitt over a panel, removing dirt, and you're going to leave some wash solution behind, no? There's the beginning of your dwell time. How long you leave it there is up to you - wash one panel and rinse, or two or three? Just don't let it dry on the surface, same as you wouldn't let any other car wash dry on the surface.

Does UW&W provide more lubricity than GC?

Give us a bit to see if we can find the answer to this.

After you are done washing and drying.. If you follow up with a QD (ie. last touch), will it remove any of the UW&W?

The simple act of wiping a towel over the paint may remove a tiny bit of what's on the paint, but it's very minimal. When using a non cleaning product like QD, Last Touch, M34, UQD, etc then it's even less. Certainly not anything to worry about.

Mike, I have one question if you don't mind:

How does UW&W compare to Gold Class in terms of lubricity? The lubricity is the reason why I use GC because my ultimate goal when washing is to prevent as many swirls as possible whilst still cleaning the car. Is UW&W more like NXT Wash in this way or is the lubricity on par (or perhaps more) than GC? Thanks a lot.

See note above.

From my experience, I believe it's more important to emphasize technique and tools used rather than just soap alone.

Absolutely, although some soaps do have better emulsifying and cleaning agents than others. But that alone won't overcome really poor washing technique.

[rusty bumper]

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Odd question, but is this product going to soak-up into your drying media after the car is rinsed off?

I don't always wash my drying media after each use, but I do rinse them out in clean water before the car is dried and before hanging the media up to dry.

Just wondering if UW&W will accumulate on a chamois and degrade its drying abilities.

[Alfisti]

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Odd question, but is this product going to soak-up into your drying media after the car is rinsed off?

I don't always wash my drying media after each use, but I do rinse them out in clean water before the car is dried and before hanging the media up to dry.

Just wondering if UW&W will accumulate on a chamois and degrade its drying abilities.

That's a good point. I know some WAUD products make my WW towels water-repellent and are trashed.

Will UW&W make WW towels hydrophobic since they contain dispersed waxes that will sit in the fibres?