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  • M205 - M21 and wax

    Hi everyone, this weekend I will be using M205 with 2.0 polishing pad first, second with finishing pad, and then M21 with another pad. Everything with the 7424XP. What I wanted to know if I can wax with Hi Tech Paste Yellow Wax, or does M21 has a cure time?? or should I apply the wax after the sealant without problems?
    Thanks in advance!

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    Re: M205 - M21 and wax

    I've used 21 and from what I've learned here is at least 12 hours cure time. Unless your pressed for time I'd probably top it the next day.
    2019 Ford F-150 XLT SPORT 4X4 Ecoboost

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    • #3
      Re: M205 - M21 and wax

      In a perfect world you would want to let the M21 cure for 12 hours, but you aren't going to hurt anything by following up with M26 prior to that time period. Just so you know, you do not need to top M21 with anything else as it is a polymer sealant and therefore a true wax substitute. Although it should be said that the M21/M26 combination is pretty popular.
      Michael Stoops
      Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

      Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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      • #4
        Re: M205 - M21 and wax

        Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
        In a perfect world you would want to let the M21 cure for 12 hours, but you aren't going to hurt anything by following up with M26 prior to that time period. Just so you know, you do not need to top M21 with anything else as it is a polymer sealant and therefore a true wax substitute. Although it should be said that the M21/M26 combination is pretty popular.
        Michael, I will say that I top M21 with M26 on my show car. It's not a night/day difference as i'm sure you know but the M26 does seem to give a small amount of extra pop and sparkle to the finish.
        I'd say for any type of DD vehicle it's not needed but on a show car every little extra edge helps
        What am I, fly-paper for morons?

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        • #5
          Re: M205 - M21 and wax

          thanks guys, I've no problem in leaving 12hs of cure time, I'm not planning to use the car in the hole weekend hehe...
          If I apply the M21 with a finishing polish should I remove the excess with a MF right after?

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            Re: M205 - M21 and wax

            I sort of notice that most of Meguiar's current waxes give an awesome pop and gloss to the car. #26 liquid, NXT 2.0, and Gold Class give the car a very warm look. It's been a long time since Ive used the DC-3 wax, so I don't remember its appearance. #16 gives a very nice reflective shine that I couldn't get from the NXT 2.0 or M26.

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            • #7
              Re: M205 - M21 and wax

              Hello everyone, I finally finished a paint correction on my 20 year old Porsche with M105/M205. I am very happy with the results although was a dog of a job as the paint was really hard and had micro scratches on every panel.

              Want my hard work to last so what do I finish the surface with?

              Do I first put M26 sealant and then M21 wax? Or M26 only or M21 only? The car is a weekend driver that gets washed regularly with an spirited driving session at the track or AX course.

              Thanks!

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              • #8
                Re: M205 - M21 and wax

                https://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-ultimate-fast-finish.html
                Last edited by fordf150; May 14, 2018, 06:58 PM. Reason: Change
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                • #9
                  Re: M205 - M21 and wax

                  Originally posted by samuraik View Post
                  Hello everyone, I finally finished a paint correction on my 20 year old Porsche with M105/M205. I am very happy with the results although was a dog of a job as the paint was really hard and had micro scratches on every panel.

                  Want my hard work to last so what do I finish the surface with?

                  Do I first put M26 sealant and then M21 wax? Or M26 only or M21 only? The car is a weekend driver that gets washed regularly with an spirited driving session at the track or AX course.

                  Thanks!
                  You have it reversed. M26 is a waxa d M21 is a sealant. If you choose to layer the. Sealant always goes first. So M21 and then M26.

                  If you like wax then go with M26. If you want longer protection than go with M21.
                  99 Grand Prix
                  02 Camaro SS

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                  • #10
                    Re: M205 - M21 and wax

                    Thank you. I got the two mixed up.

                    In regards to prep for the m21 sealant after the m205 polish, do I need to wash the car to remove any residue and oils from the polish?

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                    • #11
                      Re: M205 - M21 and wax

                      Originally posted by samuraik View Post
                      Thank you. I got the two mixed up.

                      In regards to prep for the m21 sealant after the m205 polish, do I need to wash the car to remove any residue and oils from the polish?
                      Nope. You can follow up with M21 right after M205.
                      99 Grand Prix
                      02 Camaro SS

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                      • #12
                        Re: M205 - M21 and wax

                        It should also be noted that while M21 Synthetic Sealant 2.0 will "lock in" all the work you have completed, protecting & preserving the gloss, it will not protect against scratches.

                        Remember to practice proper washing techniques like clean quality accessories & two bucket method.
                        Nick Winn
                        Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Online Forum Administrator
                        Meguiar's Inc.
                        Irvine, CA
                        nawinn@meguiars.com

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                        • #13
                          Re: M205 - M21 and wax

                          Originally posted by zeque View Post
                          thanks guys, I've no problem in leaving 12hs of cure time, I'm not planning to use the car in the hole weekend hehe...
                          If I apply the M21 with a finishing polish should I remove the excess with a MF right after?
                          After applying M21 to the whole car, I let it sit for at least two hours before removing with a microfiber. In overly humid weather you may let it sit longer. Remember to apply it THIN!!

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