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    Re: Please, I need help to remove a sealant!! (noob)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluher View Post
    The product is not the one from Three Bond as I originally thought, it is a glass coating from IONCOAT. And the reason why I don' t trust they know what they' re doing is because there is a chevrolet dealer near my house that offers this same IONCOAT, and the guy told me that their product could be removed by hand.. so that is why I am confused..

    By the way, I just ordered a Meguiars D/A G110
    First off, yes, your PM to me came through and I have since responded. You did not mention in the PM that you have ordered a G110 but that is FANTASTIC news!!! Your best bet at this point in time is to sit back and wait for the G110 to arrive, then pick up a few foam polishing pads and a good quality paint cleaner that is locally available to you. M80 Speed Glaze, M83 Dual Action Cleaner Polish or one of the milder 3M products would be good choices since Ultimate Compound is not yet available in your area.

    Again, stick with an initial test spot about the size of a microfiber towel. Odds are this will remove the holograms, and if so then you know the sealant is gone as well. Unless you find some magical way to reach around the sealant to remove the holograms while leaving the sealant in place.

    The conflicting information you're getting - a Honda dealer telling you that only a wool pad/rotary buffer will remove it, a Chevy dealer saying it can be removed by hand - are strong indications that training on this product is sorely lacking and/or it is not quite what it is made out to be. Collective experience here on MOL suggests the latter, and that you should be able to get through it and to the holograms rather easily.

    Please keep us updated.
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    Re: Please, I need help to remove a sealant!! (noob)

    My car is as good as new again! Better than before.. hahaha!! xD

    IONCOAT team did a great job, there is no holograms and the car is perfect! Well, I only hope that after washed it doesn' t get bad, whatever.
    They even applied the glass coating again, but this time it is so beautiful. It gets the wet shine without the hologram marks.. thanks god =P

    Well, I want to thank you guys too! I' ll post some pictures later! xD

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    Re: Please, I need help to remove a sealant!! (noob)

    The Ioncoat guys did a really great job, they used the rotary equiped with a soft foam pad with M83 I guess, and now my car is holograms and swirls free.

    The Honda dealer responsable for the glass coating heard a lot by now.. Well, I am practicing a lot with the reading/video material from meguiars, and my car is not ever going to be away from me now. o.o

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    I forgot to say that I did bought the M83 and asked the guy to use it with the rotary because my jedi master Stoops gave me this sugestion!

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    Re: Please, I need help to remove a sealant!! (noob)

    I found this article from the company that holds the patent; interesting:

    “SiO2- ultra thin layering” is the technical term for Liquid Glass. Apart from a select group of professionals, few people in the UK know about this stunning technology. If you walk around Ataturk’s Mausoleum in Ankara you are walking on it; if you visit certain hospitals in the UK you are touching it. If you see an unusually clean train you are probably looking at it, and if you wonder how your white settee looks so clean, you may be sitting on it. All of these surfaces have been coated with invisible glass.


    The flexible and breathable glass coating is approximately 100 nanometres thick (500 times thinner than a human hair), and so it is completely undetectable. It is food safe, environmentally friendly (winner of the Green Apple Award) and it can be applied to almost any surface within seconds . When coated, all surfaces become easy to clean and anti- microbially protected (Winner of the NHS Smart Solutions Award ). Houses, cars, ovens, wedding dress or any other protected surface become stain resistant and can be easily cleaned with water ; no cleaning chemicals are required. Amazingly a 30 second DIY application to a sink unit will last for a year or years, depending on how often it is used. But it does not stop there - the coatings are now also recognised as being suitable for agricultural and in-vivo application. Vines coated with SiO2 don’t suffer from mildew, and coated seeds grow more rapidly without the need for anti-fungal chemicals. This will result in farmers in enjoying massively increased yields . Trials for in-vivo applications are subject to a degree of secrecy, but Neil McClelland, the UK Project Manager for Nanopool GmbH, describes the results as “stunning”. “Items such as stents can be coated, and this will create anti sticking features - catheters , and sutures which are a source of infection, will also cease to be problematic.”


    When asked about how the technology works, Neil, said “In essence, we extract molecules of SiO2 (the primary constituent of glass) from quartz sand, and then we add the molecules to water or ethanol. Unfortunately, as they say in the movies , if I told you any more …..”. Neil comments further, “The really clever part is that there are no added nano-particles , resins or additives- the coatings form and bond due to quantum forces. Our research informs us that in all probability, we offer the most versatile coating in the world. We are happy to hear about any other technology which offers the same range of applications.

    Very soon almost every product that you purchase will be protected with some form of easy -to -clean coating. It just so happens that we offer something that everyone finds fascinating . The concept of spray -on glass is just mind -boggling”.

    This technology is now available for domestic use in Germany. Full scale retail availability in the UK will commence in early 2010

    http://www.nanopool.biz/couk/index.htm

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    Re: Please, I need help to remove a sealant!! (noob)

    Sounds like the next big thing lol.

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    Re: Please, I need help to remove a sealant!! (noob)


    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Stoops View Post

    you'd like your money back.







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    Re: Please, I need help to remove a sealant!! (noob)

    It shouldn't your job to remove the sealant, you want the result you want and tell the dealer or whoever applied the product to fix it. A glass coating is the final process for the paint and anyone applying it should know that you do not apply it over any paint that has not been paint corrected. I am hoping that the holograms are on the glass coating, so a light paint correction may fix it. (try a small area and see what happens, treat like they is no glass coating on with the DA, use M105 and M205, least aggressive first).
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    Re: Please, I need help to remove a sealant!! (noob)

    "The flexible and breathable glass coating is approximately 100 nanometres thick (500 times thinner than a human hair)" this statement cannot be correct. This is a pretty thick coating and would make your car bigger by 100 nanometres whatever that is.
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    Re: Please, I need help to remove a sealant!! (noob)

    Quote Originally Posted by rickylexus250 View Post
    It shouldn't your job to remove the sealant, you want the result you want and tell the dealer or whoever applied the product to fix it. A glass coating is the final process for the paint and anyone applying it should know that you do not apply it over any paint that has not been paint corrected. I am hoping that the holograms are on the glass coating, so a light paint correction may fix it. (try a small area and see what happens, treat like they is no glass coating on with the DA, use M105 and M205, least aggressive first).
    This thread is 4 years old so odds are the issue has been resolved by now.

    Quote Originally Posted by rickylexus250 View Post
    "The flexible and breathable glass coating is approximately 100 nanometres thick (500 times thinner than a human hair)" this statement cannot be correct. This is a pretty thick coating and would make your car bigger by 100 nanometres whatever that is.
    No, this sounds about right actually for a modern "glass coating". With many of them, if you tape off a section and apply right up to the tape, you can feel the difference in thickness (the "step up" at the edge of the coating). Let's put this presumed 100 nanometer thickness into context: factory clear coat is on the order of 1.5 to 2.0 mils thick. That's a max of 2/1000 of an inch, which is pretty thin. Most manufacturers recommend a max clear coat removal via polishing, wet sanding, etc of 0.5 mil before seriously compromising the integrity of the clear coat. Merely compounding the paint with a DA won't come anywhere near this level of material removal so it's a non issue here. That 100 nanometer thick coating? It's just 0.0039 mil (4/1000 of a mil) or 0.0000039 inch (4/1,000,000 of an inch).
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