SwirlX has no abrasives?

[wong600]

I just noticed my bottle of SwirlX (bought over 8 months ago) staes that it has no abrasives.. how does it remove swirls with no abrasives?

[speed3blackmica]

Re: SwirlX has no abrasives?

Does it really say that? Swirl X does contain abrasives..they are microscopic in size but they are there

[Murr1525]

Re: SwirlX has no abrasives?

It will likely say 'non-abrasive'.

It is more a situation of 'detailing jargon' run amok. Many folks think a product with abrasives as something that will scour the paint, and then you use a less abrasive product to remove those marks, and then something milder if needed, and so on.

SwirlX (and most Meguiars products) will finish down almost perfectly, with no marks left behind (when used properly ,etc).

So to get across to the average shopper that the product wont leave marks behind, it has to say 'non-abrasive'.

[Markus Kleis]

Re: SwirlX has no abrasives?

SwirlX does contain abrasive material - just nothing close to what most people traditionally associate with the term abrasives when it comes to a polish.

Meguiar's knows that many people think of products like the original Turtle Wax Rubbing Compound when the word "abrasive" is used - and since SwirlX performs in an entire different way, they were trying to convey that.

I do agree - it can be a bit confusing to someone that fully understands the concept of polishing.

[wong600]

Re: SwirlX has no abrasives?

Thanks guys.. yes it does say "non-abrasive' actually. Yeah, it's a consumer line product so they gotta use marketing-friendly wording..

I also have some "polishes" that don't actually have abrasives.. but people like the word polish, so companies will use it..

You have to be an informed consumer with car detailing products!

[searle]

Re: SwirlX has no abrasives?

I also have some "polishes" that don't actually have abrasives.. but people like the word polish, so companies will use it..

1) Some folks say they just "polished" their car meaning they just waxed it.

2) Some wax companies only use the word "polish" when refering to products which clean the paint and remove defects (and that may, or may not, involve abrasives).

3) Meguiar's mostly uses the term "polish" to refer to their products containing nurturing oils (and if not a "pure polish" then they also have other components to help minimize minor blemishes).

Sadly (and confusingly) the word "polish" has no shared meaning, you need to know the specific context and the specific user and what they are referring to. Most wax related words are used by different folks in different ways, and this is more true with "polish" than any other word.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: SwirlX has no abrasives?

It's very common that the non-enthuasiast will ask for something "that isn't abrasive because I don't want to damage my clear coat". They equate "abrasive" with old school rubbing compounds that will scour a modern clear coat paint. What they really want is something that "won't scratch my clear coat" - their knowledge level is just not quite up to that of the typical MOL member or other detailing enthusiast.

You guys know that in order to remove swirls you must remove a tiny little bit of clear coat. The general consumer can be really put off by that concept - it just plain scares them. So in the case of SwirlX, the term "non-abrasive" on the label really refers to the fact that SwilrX won't scour or scratch the paint.

Yes, SwirlX does contain abrasive particles as that is the only way you can truly remove fine swirls and scratches. In this case, the abrasives are part of our Super Micro Abrasive Technology family (think M105, M205) so they are fine enough to not scour or scratch the paint, all while cleaning it and removing fine defects.

[searle]

Re: SwirlX has no abrasives?

I believe Michael's post above probably highlights the reasoning behind Meguiar's decision to drop DC-1 cleaner and to emphasize SwirlX instead. I believe DC1 was more towards a "chemical paint cleaner" in that it did a good job of paint cleaning, but did not contain the abrasives necessary to also remove minor swirls and scratches. As he clearly explains, to actually remove swirls and scratches requires removing at least a very tiny bit of paint/clearcoat - even though the amount removed is so small that it can be done regularly, by hand, and still have the paint/clearcoat last a lifetime.

I love his explaination of the difference between the new (non-marring) microAbrasives and the older abrasives that almost every consumer is still thinking about (and worried about). This is an excelent example of Meguiars continuously improving products to enhance the good aspects and remove the problem aspects. Even dummies like me can safely and quickly get wonderful results from the new generation of Meguiars "microAbrasive" cleaners. Most consumers will never understand the subtle advancements, hence the Meguiars label saying the product is "non-abrasive" really is the clearest way to describe the actual performance and results to end-consumers.

[Dualis]

Re: SwirlX has no abrasives?

Hi !

Can anybody please tell me, if Swirlx has fillers and silicone or no ?

Thank you and all the best !

Dualis

[searle]

Re: SwirlX has no abrasives?

Hi !

Can anybody please tell me, if Swirlx has fillers and silicone or no ?

Thank you and all the best !

Dualis

You asked this question 06feb (thread=SwirlX, post#94) and it was answered in detail (post#96+97)

[Dualis]

Re: SwirlX has no abrasives?

Sorry and thank you again !