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    white dots

    Hello all,


    My name is Joe, I have a 2004 dodge neon srt-4. I take care of it as well as I can, but its a daily driver and gets parked in the street. The car was involved in an accident (prior owner) and the carfax said front impact, but I have no idea how much was actually re-painted.

    My problem comes here. After our winter (NY got about 3 blizzards this year) and specifically after the third blizzard, i noticed when the snow cleared off of my car these white dots started to show up on my paint. they kept coming up, but now finally stopped.







    any idea what this is? its odd that they came up after the snow was on the car. i appreciate any knowlege you guys have on this topic. its unfortunate but i think this stuff is IN the paint. bummer

    **OH and last thing. whats the best stuff to get out surface scratches? scratch x? or will a regular 3 step wax with meguiars cleaner, polish, and wax get that out?

    THANK YOU!
    Joe
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    my car usually looks like this, so these dots are killin me!

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    • #3
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      Originally posted by agp488 View Post

      my car usually looks like this, so these dots are killin me!
      How do you drive with some guy sitting on the car all the time?


      As for the question, is there any texture to the dots? Can you feel them or just see them?

      Are they any where else on the car or just the hood? If it's on an area that's been repainted only, that can sometimes allude to a problem with surface prep in the body shop from what I have read on here.

      For scratch removal, it really depends on how deep the scratches are. Start with the least abrasive product and move up the scale until you find one that is hefty enough.

      Keep in mind that results will vary based on the scratches as well as how you apply the product (by hand or with a machine).

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      • #4
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        Have you tried using clay on this yet? That would be my 1st choice
        "Every moment frontin and maxin
        Chillin in the car they spent all day waxin        "

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        • #5
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          havent tried clay yet because of the weather....i will when it warms up

          cant feel just see...hence why i think its a shatty paint job. its a little on my roof before the sunroof, a little on my left rear panel, and a lot on my drivers side rear door

          just wanted to see what you guys thought

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          • #6
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            Well, hopefully it is not some kind of clear coat failure.
            2017 Subaru WRX Premium - WR Blue

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            • #7
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              Has it been painted since the factory paint?
              "Every moment frontin and maxin
              Chillin in the car they spent all day waxin              "

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              • #8
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                yup, it was in a prior accident before i got the car. i dont know how much of the car was painted though.

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                • #9
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                  Definitely go the clay route. Then see where you stand.
                  quality creates its own demand

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by agp488 View Post
                    yup, it was in a prior accident before i got the car. i dont know how much of the car was painted though.
                    As I understand it from a recent trip to the body shop, they paint the part that was repaired and parts of the adjacent panels so they can blend the paint ocrrectly so you can't tell where the new and old meet.

                    If they did that on your car, it wouldn't surprise me if it's in overlapped areas.

                    Good luck! Hopefully it turns out to be some surface contamination that will pull up with the clay.

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                    • #11
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                      clayed it and nothing.......looks like new paint is in order here?

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                      • #12
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                        Go grab a bottle of Meguiars SwirlX, a foam appliator pad, and try rubbing out a small spot for about 30 seconds.
                        Nick
                        Tucker's Detailing Services
                        815-954-0773
                        2012 Ford Transit Connect

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                        • #13
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                          OK, this is mostly speculation here since we can't see the car in person, but we have seen a very similar phenomenon before - fortunately not often at all.

                          What we think it might be is that the color coat was a water based paint that did not dry sufficiently before the clear was shot. And clears are still solvent based. Once the clear was laid down it locked the trapped carrier solvent (essentially the water) in the color coat and then the clear dried faster than the color. The color coat is trying to release the solvent (in this case, again, the "solvent" is water) but it's trapped under the clear.

                          When dealing with strictly solvent based paints you can end up with what's known as "solvent pop", which is a very similar mechanism. Except in that case the solvent is not water and it's actually strong enough to come to the surface of the clear (essentially bubbling up) and it breaks through, or pops. Sometimes it does nothing more than sort of build up pressure, causing little rises in the paint.

                          Unfortunately for you, a "solvent pop" issue is easier to deal with than a wet water based paint being trapped under a dried clear. All you can do for that situation is to repaint.

                          Again, we are not saying that is definitely what you're up against here, but it could be.
                          Michael Stoops
                          Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                          Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                          • #14
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                            michael stoops i appreciate the feedback. i do believe that is right on. this stuff looks to be deep in there somewhere. i think my only option is to repaint. thank you guyd

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                            • #15
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                              [Sorry, I posted before reading the whole thread.]

                              You said the dot's were "coming up". As opposed to paint "flaking off" and resulting in dots.

                              I had repaint years ago..... got dots too. Paint was flaking off, not sure if claying would have helped or hurt.
                              Last edited by Jossy92; Mar 25, 2010, 10:11 AM. Reason: Didn't read all the post before posting
                              Success is never final, failure is never fatal. It's courage that counts.
                              by John Wooden

                              '88 Honda

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