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    Ok.... here's the deal. What next???

    Well, it's kind of a long story. Here is the short version;

    I ordered the G100 along with the Essentials Kit today. I also have an Orbital Polisher on the way too (i think.. could be a rotary buffer, not sure)...

    Anyways, while I have to sit around and wait for those to show up, I went out and bought some other products today. I got

    -100% cotton terry cloths
    -microfiber cloths
    -NXT car wash
    -NXT Tech Wax
    -Meguiars Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner
    -Mother's Clay Bar Kit
    -Meguiars Scratch X

    My question to you experts is this..... Where do I start? This is an absolute first for me. All I have done to this point is wash it with the NXT car wash, and tried a couple spots with the Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner and then followed on the same spots with the Clay Bar Kit.

    For a full report, including photos, go here
    Rob's Vette

    Thanks for all your help.
    Rob
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    Rob,

    Welcome!

    This might be the best single website to get you started. The guy that writes it is almost (note almost) as sharp as Mike Phillips.

    http://www.bettercarcare.com

    Tom

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    Here's the basic order of steps to follow,


    Washing
    Before detailing your Corvette, first do an extremely good job of washing it. Remove all the dirt from all the nooks and crannies. This prevents any small abrasive dirt particle from entering into the machine polishing process and potentially instilling a swirl. Get the Car Sparkling Clean to start with and everything will be downhill after that.

    Claying
    After that clay the car, at least the horizontal surfaces. Again, do a good job of claying to insure you remove all above surface contaminants. The level of gloss you can achieve from your car's finish is mostly determined by how smooth you can make your paint. Claying will make your car's finish as smooth as glass.

    Cleaning
    Cleaning is different than washing. Cleaning is removing both above surface defects like oxidation and below surface defects like swirls, scratches, etchings, and dirt that has embedded itself under the surface. Choose the appropriate paint cleaner for the condition of your car's finish and your application process. If you're unsure of which paint cleaner or cleaner/polish is right for your car, describe your car and if possible post a picture and we'll be glad to make some recommendations.


    Polishing
    Polishing after removing the defects is typically using a pure polish that is non-abrasive to restore brilliant high gloss and deep, dark reflections. This is an optional step and one best used on medium to dark colored car.

    Protecting
    This is where you apply your choice of wax or paint protectant. Adding a layer or two of wax creates a sacrificial-barrier on your car's paint to protect it and also add shine and gloss. Generally, two thin coats will insure even coverage with a uniform appearance.

    Maintaining
    Maintaining is the use of products like a quick detailer or a spray wax to maintain that "Just detailed look" in-between regular washings, and the regular application of a normal coat of wax.


    Meguiar's always teaches,

    "Always use the least aggressive product to get the job done"


    Now that you have the G-100 and the essentials kit, for the Cleaning step, I would recommend trying the #80 Speed Glaze with a W-8006 foam pad on the 5.0 setting. Buff for 3-4 minutes an area about 16" square. Stop buffing and wipe off the residue and inspect in two kinds of light if possible. If it's looking good, then do the entire car and then apply wax.

    If it's not removing as much of the swirls and scratches as you would like to see, then try a test section using the #83 DACP. After buffing the test section on the 5.0 setting with a dedicated pad, re-polish the same area with the #80 Speed Glaze and then wipe the residue from this step off and inspect again. Whatever results you see here will be about as good as you're going to get without using a rotary buffer.

    The idea is to see if you can restore an acceptable finish using the least aggressive product.

    Here's a suggestions, you might want to use a permanent marker to mark the back of your buffing pads with the product number you're using with them with a so you don't mix products on to different pads.

    Hope this helps...

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    Mike,

    Were you able to take a look at the pictures of what I am working with?? Just wondering if the products you recommend are based on the condition of the car, or if they are general rules of thumb....

    Thanks,
    Rob
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    Originally posted by Rob's Garage
    Mike,

    Were you able to take a look at the pictures of what I am working with?? Just wondering if the products you recommend are based on the condition of the car, or if they are general rules of thumb....

    Thanks,
    Rob
    Hi Rob,

    Yes I did click over and look at the pictures of your Corvette. It looks like it could use a good polishing. As a practice, since it sounds like you're new to polishing with the dual action polisher, I would clay the entire finish first just to make sure all above surface contaminants have been removed, and then I would do the test section like I mentioned with the #80 and inspect. You might even want to apply a coat of wax after removing the #80, let it dry and then inspect to get a true and accurate assessment of what your end-results are going to look like.

    You could also try a text section right next to this first test section starting with the #83, then going to the #80 and then a coat of wax and compare the two sections and follow the recipe that looks best.

    Without being their in person it's hard to say for sure what to use and what to do, but either of these to options should result in a much more clear, glossier and overall better looking finish.

    Mike
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    Ok, I received the G100 today along with the products in the Essentials kit. (**edit**, I just realized they sent me the wrong kit of products. Thay sent the kit for "Polishing by Hand", instead of the "Power Polishing Kit")

    What I didn't have was the products I see referred to in the posts (#80, #81, #82 etc).....

    So I went to my local Pep Boys and all they had was #6 (cleaner Wax), #7 (Show Car Glaze) and #9 (Swirl Remover)..... So I bought all three.

    So, what is what? Are these products equivalent to the others? If so, In what order should I use them??? Also, I only got one foam applicator pad with the G100........ So I may only be able to use one product. Where can I get more pads to avoid using the same pad with different products???

    Thanks,
    Rob
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    Hi Rob,

    The essentials kit was supposed to come with a pad kit along with #83 DACP and #80 Speed Glaze as well as other things?


    The *Essentials* Pro Kit for G-100 Holiday Package:
    Professional Detailing Clay - Mild [/b] C2000
    #80 Speed Glaze M8032
    #83 Dual Action Cleaner Polish - 32 oz. M8332
    #16 Professional Paste Wax - 11oz. M1611
    #26 Hi Tech Yellow Wax - 16 oz. M2616
    DA Velcro Buffing System - 3 Pads and Backing Plate WDAV99
    Ultimate Bonnet - 6.5" - 3 each M9920
    FREE SHIPPING!*
    (*Continental US and Canada Only)



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    Hi Rob,

    I just read your edit,

    Call Customer Car tomorrow, I'm pretty sure they're closed by now with our holiday hours.

    Here's the phone number 1-800-347-5700

    Tell them what happened and even refer to you post here and I'll guarantee you they will take care of you. I apologize for the mixed up order. I can assure you it is the exception, not the rule.

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    I just edited the above post.

    Apparently they sent me the wrong kit. They sent the Detailing By Hand kit rather than the Power Polishing kit for the G100... UGHHH!!!

    THIS SUX...... There goes my weekend I had set aside to do all this work!
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    Originally posted by Rob's Garage
    Apparently they sent me the wrong kit. They sent the Detailing By Hand kit rather than the Power Polishing kit for the G100... UGHHH!!!

    There goes my weekend I had set aside to do all this work!
    Hi Rob,

    Call Customer Car tomorrow, they open at 7:00am Pacific Standard Time. Tell them I told you to call them and see if they can do any kind of rush shipment.

    Here's the phone number 1-800-347-5700

    Again, I apologize for the mix up.

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