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    I have to clay the same area?

    I've got a Ford Fusion that's 7 months old. I'm doing the ziploc-baggy on my hand test after each round with the clay bar. So far I've done 5 rounds with the clay bar and still have some grit feeling when I run the bag over the area.

    It is definitely is better than a non-treated area, but should it take working a given area this many times?

    I've also noticed that the clay isn't really getting very dirty. How much pressure should I be applying? Should I use back & forth motions are circles or a combination of both?

    I'm using Meg's Smooth Surface Clay & Quick detailer. Any insight would be appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.

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    When I clay i go over everything once. work for a few min every panel. It shouldnt take forever to clay a car. few times back and forth and it should turn to glass. a brand new car shoulnt be rough to the touch. possibly more pressure?

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    Re: How many times should...


    Quote Originally Posted by buzznode View Post

    7 months old.


    I've done 5 rounds with the clay bar and still have some grit feeling when I run the bag over the area.










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    Something seems strange. You should only have to clay a vehicle once. Maybe 4-5 passes over the same inch, while working the clay (if it isn't too contaminated). You likely shouldn't need anything more aggressive than smooth surface clay for a 7 month old car.

    I'm wondering if your vehicle was perhaps repainted or if there was perhaps a mishap during the paint job. Is it like this on all the panels?

    You can pretty much press on the clay as hard as you want, as long as the clay is able to retain a pancake type shape and you are providing enough lubrication that the clay is not sticking as you work it.

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    This should not be happening. Are you using enough lube?
    You say the clay is not dirty after you pass over a area. I wonder if you are not using enough pressure?

    I would use more qd, keep your work area small about 2 foot square, and apply more pressure in using the clay. Go over each area 5-6 times. Then wipe dry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Davidson View Post

    You can pretty much press on the clay as hard as you want, and you are providing enough lubrication that the clay is not sticking as you work it.



    Quote Originally Posted by J. A. Michaels View Post

    I would use more qd, and apply more pressure in using the clay. Go over each area 5-6 times.










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    Are you sure it isn't an area that is at the beginnings of clearcoat failure? That will feel very rough, will never clean up with clay, and will not dirty the claybar.

    Edit - I see that it's 7 months old, so clearcoat failure is very unlikely.

    Is there anything that you can visually see in the area that is giving you trouble?
    Are you having success claying other portions of the car?
    Use moderate amounts of pressure, not like you're scrubbing, but also not like you're just letting it slide over the surface.
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    Re: How many times should...

    First off, thanks for the responses everyone.

    Here's some additional information that might help explain what's going on...

    Granted the car is only 7 months old, but it travels quite a distance to and from work. First my wife drove it to her job and now I'm driving it. Any ways the car has 15,000 miles on it already.

    The area I was cleaning was the front part of the hood (on a Fusion the very front of the hood has a fairly steep slope for about 3"). I assume that since the car is driven about 90% of the time at highway speeds that contaminants are being slammed into the front of the car and "sticking" more-so in that area than anywhere else.

    Since I was obsessing about it throughout the night, I got up at 5:30 this morning and continued working on the car.

    With more rounds the area is still improving and is really pretty good. I have also started applying a bit more pressure AND using a lot more QD.

    On a side note, the back area of the hood (by the windshield) cleaned up very nice and IS smooth. I've also made 1 pass over one of the front quarter panels and it feels really good too, although I'll probably do a second round where I still feel some grit right at the wheel well.

    So all that being said, I think part of the issue is the amount of grit that has built up on the front of the car, but also my lack of claying experience. This IS the first time I've ever clayed.

    Thanks again for all your help and I'm sure I'll be asking more questions as I progress through the detailing process.

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    Re: How many times should...

    It may be a situation where a little stronger clay would have made the job easier, but no way to know until you try.

    The Detailer Line Mild Clay is a little stronger, but probably no need to go buy it since you are making progress.

    And if you keep up with it now in the future, should not be as hard to clay in the future either.
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    Re: How many times should...

    Without ordering new product you could also try the claymagic claybar which can be had at most local stores.

    In the future you could consider ordering a more aggressive clay from the detailer line that Meguiar's carries.
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