Ultimate Quik Wax vs Ultimate Quik Detailer

[ffboy]

Re: Ultimate Quik Wax vs Ultimate Quik Detailer

To each his own... Waxing and regular maintenance is a good thing. It will make any car stand out, even side by side with the same car and same color. But, paint will eventually degrade, regardless of whatever paint protection system one's car has.

But then, too much of a good thing can also be bad..

[Detailing by M]

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"But, paint will eventually degrade, regardless of whatever paint protection system one's car has"
Hu? This just isn't true. I've seen alot of very, very, old cars that have been treated with Meguiar's since the beginning of there lives and there paint has not degraded one bit.

Again, this is insulting to me and all the pros out there making a living at "preserving" paint. And I hope this wasn't your intentions.

The whole reason the detailing business started was to protect and preserve peoples pride and joys.
Making such a statement that detailing your car won't prevent degrading is just false.
What are you basing such a statement on?

[Michael Stoops]

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I own a Fiat 500...here is the picture. I only use Meguires Quick Detailer AFTER washing my car and have always used only that. I have not waxed the car nor was it waxed when I purchased it.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2zuf2bktdu94r5d/F500.jpg

I've never had any problems making this car look shiny and nice and when it gets dirty, it's easy to wash and so on.

I think waxing is OK but in general you do more harm waxing and polishing than you do good...not because it's not something that doesn't help..but in most cases most people just don't do it right and it's very time consuming.

Improper waxing and polishing can, indeed, do more harm than good, but that's actually quite rare. What is much more common, unfortunately, is that improper washing and drying do a lot of harm as this is the primary cause of swirls and fine scratches.

We think that you're doing a bit of a disservice to yourself and your vehicle if you're skipping some steps just because you've seen people do those steps incorrectly. Once you really understand the process of properly polishing and waxing a vehicle, it really isn't all that difficult or time consuming. And the vehicle will look better for it in the long run. Plus, if your washing and drying processes are done properly, there shouldn't be a real need to do extensive polishing or other defect removal all that often anyway. As an example, my own personal daily driver hasn't had a full machine polish done to it in a few years now, because of the care I take when properly washing, drying and maintaining it. Certainly I'm not alone in this as several of our members here on MOL and on other detailing forums treat their vehicles the same way. We all regularly wax our cars, too, and during the Christmas Holiday I actually hand waxed all three of our cars at home, using Ultimate Wax paste, in a single morning.

While your Fiat 500 does look great in the image you provided - and let's face it, that red is a great color for that terrific little car - we'd hate to see you neglect to provide it with a full and proper somewhere along the line just because you've seen too many people make mistakes with their cars in the past.

[Top Gear]

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Maybe I can shed some light on this. Before I recently changed my routine, I was washing regularly, drying off with MF towels, and then I'd then wax every month or so when the paint was no longer smooth. Waxing that way by hand asks a lot out of a mere wax, it's a lot of work washing and waxing that does very little in the way of fixing problems accumulating on the paint, and all that washing and wiping just creates swirls and water spot smears. It's very frustrating. No wonder people give up on it, or think "paint just degrades", or drive white or greyish cars so they can fool themselves into never waxing and rarely washing.

Rather than Ultimate, I'm using Gold Class for finishing steps (Ultimate for prep steps), but the principle is the same. I'd already compounded with Ultimate Compound and polished with Ultimate Polish, then waxed with Gold Class using a DA polisher - yes, that was indeed a lot of work, but I won't be doing it every month like I was with hand-waxing. Now when the car needs cleaning, instead of washing it by hand (unless it's truly dirty/muddy, etc), I just use a "California Duster" to lightly dust off the car, then Gold Class Quick Detailer with an MF towel to "wash" the paint as needed, getting it back to a perfectly smooth surface, then I apply Gold Class Quick Wax with another MF towel to boost the wax I just wiped down - and possibly wiped off. That's it, other than whatever might be needed for wheels and tires, the underbelly or the trim more infrequently.

So, in less time and with less trouble than a traditional wash, the paint is perfectly clean and smooth, dry, and freshly waxed via the 2-step boost of QD and QW matching the Gold Class Liquid Wax I'd previously applied. There are no extra swirls, no waiting for it to dry enough to wipe down, and it looks and feels like a show car. We're talking 10 minutes. Depending on weather and driving conditions, I could go indefinitely like this before needing to break out the DA polisher again to do the 3-step correction. It's just easier and far more enjoyable to quick detail/wax than to wash and dry. And I'm talking about a black car, friends Meg's "quick" products are awesome!!

[Adonyahu]

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Wow... great discussion for me, a newbie. I "had" a confusion about UQD and UQW. Like a blind, choose UQD. I say like a blind because I haven't read this thread. Now, I know and agree about waxes and my intention was booster/maintain the wax with UQD, BETWEEN WAXES, with benefit of wipe down dust (not bonded, I live in a great avenue, then there are much soot/dust). I thought that wax over wax in a week could not be cool.

Well, correct me if necessary. I understand that UQD how a wax booster/maintain is not appropriate. After wash (I wanted UQD), between waxes, better is the UQW?

[Murr1525]

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UQW needs to be on a clean surface, so either after washing, or after QDing. But, it will offer more protection.

UQD can remove light dust/dirt safely, and leaves a polymer to help water run off the surface.

So if I was going to wash, and then use something, I would go with UQW.

I like to go around the car once to dry up most of the water, and then once with the UQW to do a final drying.

[s word]

Re: Ultimate Quik Wax vs Ultimate Quik Detailer

UQW needs to be on a clean surface, so either after washing, or after QDing. But, it will offer more protection.

UQD can remove light dust/dirt safely, and leaves a polymer to help water run off the surface.

So if I was going to wash, and then use something, I would go with UQW.

I like to go around the car once to dry up most of the water, and then once with the UQW to do a final drying.

I have found great success when applying UQW to the wet car while drying. The water runs right off. I especially like the use of this on my rims. I mist the rim, water runs right away then drying time is minimized.
I am not sure what this does to the UQW applied but my results look great and drying time combine with flooding technique is reduced very significantly.

[Top Gear]

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Yeah, it's the drying that complicates everything. You're tempted to wipe it down, but because of hard water spots (I need to look into some water filtration!), that creates more work with smears and more swirls, and if it's not arid and windy out, the drying takes forever and soils many towels. The other day I did a full deal wash after a trip in the late afternoon and basically let it dry overnight. The few spots remaining the next morning were far easier to wipe off with GCQD than full drying would have been. After that, GCQW

[NorthantsPete]

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what about door shuts.. this is the only time i need a detailer, rest of the time i spray wax as a drying aid or after a wash


do i really need a a detailer?

[davey g-force]

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what about door shuts.. this is the only time i need a detailer, rest of the time i spray wax as a drying aid or after a wash


do i really need a a detailer?

Depends how dirty they are I guess. If only light dirt/dust then a spray wax is fine IMO