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    Re: Extremely Stubborn Water Stains

    Originally posted by davey g-force View Post
    I'm not doubting that particular product worked for your particular situation and I'm not trying to give you a hard time.

    However, making blanket claims that "any" wheel cleaner will work for all water spotting situations is a bit risky.

    Some wheel cleaners are highly acidic (which can't be good for the paint) and some are highly alkaline. Which category does the BASF product fall into? Got any more info on the product?

    Also, there are two main types of water spots - Type 1 water spots (which are mineral deposits sitting on top of the paint) and Type 2 water spots (which are actually etched into and below the surface of the paint). In the case of Type 2 water spots, the only way to remove them is to level the surrounding paint using some sort of compound, or in extreme cases wet sanding.
    We're with Davey here, 100%. We also are not doubting you one little bit, but in the case of etched paint, you can't simply wipe away the damage.

    "Water spots" is an incredibly broad term, and that's the problem. Heck, we've all washed a car only to find it dribble out a bit of water from a piece of trim, and when the water dries you've got water spots. But those are very fresh and will wipe away with nothing more than a bit of quick detailer and a microfiber towel. Those are water spots in the simplest form. The other extreme is when acid rain or reclaimed water quite literally etches the paint, literally eating some of the paint away. Obviously between these two extremes there are infinite possibilities - hardness of the water, acid content of the water, hardness of the paint, how long the minerals in the water were left in place, how much heat exposure was experienced, etc.

    Davey is also right about the pH differences in various wheel cleaners. Our Hot Rims Chrome Wheel Cleaner has a highly acidic pH, around 3.5. We highly recommend that nobody ever applies this to the paint on their car. Don't even think about it. And if for some weird reason you do decide to use it on paint and you actually get away with it (ie, you don't do any damage) consider yourself lucky - you dodged a bullet. DON'T TRY IT AGAIN.


    But Randy, if you've used this particular BASF product with success, we have no reason to doubt it's true.
    Michael Stoops
    Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

    Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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