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  • #16
    Re: Ultimate Polish

    So then what I'm gathering is this product is basically a touch less aggressive then Swirl-X, and contains a healthy dose of polishing oils?

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    • #17
      Re: Ultimate Polish

      Michael,

      Whenever I use M205 either by itself or in combination with M105, I always finish down with Menzerna 85RD. How do you see Ultimate Polish fitting into this scenario? Is it designed as a direct competitor to 85RD? If so could you list the pros/cons re replacing 85RD with Ultimate Polish?

      Another step I’ve recently added (from a recommendation) after using 85RD and a final IPA wipe down is to use Chemical Guy’s Ez-Crème Glaze as a cleaner/prepper/bonding agent before applying a sealant. Not only is Ez-Crème all of the above but it leaves an incredibly glossy/slick surface. If UP would achieve all of the above it would be extremely useful.

      It might be wishful thinking, but it could be nice to eliminate at least one of those steps.

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      • #18
        Re: Ultimate Polish

        Any word on using this on a light color? I know other polishes do not show much.

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        • #19
          Re: Ultimate Polish

          Originally posted by OhioCarBuff View Post
          So then what I'm gathering is this product is basically a touch less aggressive then Swirl-X, and contains a healthy dose of polishing oils?
          That's a pretty accurate statement.


          Originally posted by gmck View Post
          Michael,

          Whenever I use M205 either by itself or in combination with M105, I always finish down with Menzerna 85RD. How do you see Ultimate Polish fitting into this scenario? Is it designed as a direct competitor to 85RD? If so could you list the pros/cons re replacing 85RD with Ultimate Polish?

          Another step I’ve recently added (from a recommendation) after using 85RD and a final IPA wipe down is to use Chemical Guy’s Ez-Crème Glaze as a cleaner/prepper/bonding agent before applying a sealant. Not only is Ez-Crème all of the above but it leaves an incredibly glossy/slick surface. If UP would achieve all of the above it would be extremely useful.

          It might be wishful thinking, but it could be nice to eliminate at least one of those steps.
          Don't lose sight of the fact that Ultimate Polish is a consumer product designed for use by D/A or hand. It is not a rotary compatible product. If you're using a rotary and looking for maximum refinement then M205 is probably still the better choice. The finish left by Ultimate Polish feels much like that left by M07, M81 or other pure polishes - it's very glossy but has that bit of a grab on the towel due to the level of polishing oils in it.


          Originally posted by joaks View Post
          Any word on using this on a light color? I know other polishes do not show much.
          From the perspective of the polishing oils alone it isn't going to yield anything very different from other pure polishes. But since it utilizes SMAT abrasives it can increase the clarity of the finish much the way M205 does, especially when used with a D/A. That can be very beneficial on lighter colors as it helps achieve a nice crisp finish.
          Michael Stoops
          Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

          Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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          • #20
            Re: Ultimate Polish

            Michael, is this product similiar to Deep Crystal Step 1 ?

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            • #21
              Re: Ultimate Polish

              Originally posted by gmck View Post
              Michael,

              Whenever I use M205 either by itself or in combination with M105, I always finish down with Menzerna 85RD. How do you see Ultimate Polish fitting into this scenario? Is it designed as a direct competitor to 85RD? If so could you list the pros/cons re replacing 85RD with Ultimate Polish?
              It certainly sounds to me like Ultimate Polish can be used, indeed is designed to be used, as a finishing polish. 85RD is considered by many to be the premier jeweling polish. It will be interesting to read the reviews of UP. I'm sure many people will be trying it out and comparing it to other jeweling polishes. It may have one advantage--namely, it is based on SMAT technology; hence the abrasives do not need to be broken down. One can stop the buffing cycle at any point. That's one reason I like M205.

              Another step I’ve recently added (from a recommendation) after using 85RD and a final IPA wipe down is to use Chemical Guy’s Ez-Crème Glaze as a cleaner/prepper/bonding agent before applying a sealant. Not only is Ez-Crème all of the above but it leaves an incredibly glossy/slick surface. If UP would achieve all of the above it would be extremely useful. It might be wishful thinking, but it could be nice to eliminate at least one of those steps.
              If one intends to apply a non-Meguiar's synthetic sealant, then UP may not save any steps for you. EZ-Creme is a synthetic glaze, and therefore compatible with synthetic sealants. I imagine that UP is compatible with NXT and Ultimate Wax; but because UP is (apparently) oil-based, an IPA wipedown may be needed if applying a non-Meguiar's synthetic sealant. But of course, I have no idea I'm just talking through my hat. I may be totally off-base on this.

              I'm really looking forward to reading the reviews of Ultimate Polish.
              Swirls hide in the black molecular depths, only waiting for the right time to emerge and destroy your sanity.
              --Al Kimel

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              • #22
                Re: Ultimate Polish

                Originally posted by lukaszr View Post
                Michael, is this product similiar to Deep Crystal Step 1 ?
                Ultimate Polish is vastly different in almost every way - SMAT abrasives, lots of polishing oils, ease of application and removal, cleaning strength, etc.
                Michael Stoops
                Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                • #23
                  Re: Ultimate Polish

                  Very nice.
                  Nick
                  Tucker's Detailing Services
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                  2012 Ford Transit Connect

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                  • #24
                    Re: Ultimate Polish

                    Awesome...

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                    • #25
                      Re: Ultimate Polish

                      This, along with ultimate compound and ultimate wax are great stuff!!!

                      I guess there's no need to buy the professional versions since these are available OTC. The only advantage of the professional variants is that they are body shop safe right? But in terms of usage, they are pretty much similar, right?

                      Mike, kudos in keeping up with all the comments/questions in all 2011 new product announcement threads!!!
                      2011 Car Crazy Showcase SEMA Team

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                      • #26
                        Re: Ultimate Polish

                        Originally posted by Marc08EX View Post
                        I guess there's no need to buy the professional versions since these are available OTC. The only advantage of the professional variants is that they are body shop safe right? But in terms of usage, they are pretty much similar, right?
                        The pro products are also rotary compatible, which carries a ton of weight in many instances. But yes, our ability to trickle down the pro technology into consumer products is pretty cool.

                        Originally posted by Marc08EX View Post
                        Mike, kudos in keeping up with all the comments/questions in all 2011 new product announcement threads!!!
                        Thanks! You guys are keeping me jumping today, no doubt about it. I'm off to Vegas early tomorrow morning to give live updates from the SEMA show floor, but I'll still be answering questions through the day as well.
                        Michael Stoops
                        Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                        Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Ultimate Polish

                          Originally posted by Michael Stoops View Post
                          Thanks! You guys are keeping me jumping today, no doubt about it. I'm off to Vegas early tomorrow morning to give live updates from the SEMA show floor, but I'll still be answering questions through the day as well.
                          I'm also very impressed at how fast and thorough all Mike's responses are.
                          That folks, is why Mike Stoops is the Internet Technical Specialist!
                          More Holograms than the USS Enterprise

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                          • #28
                            Re: Ultimate Polish

                            excellent bottle design, how super modern and sleek. does this fit in cleaner category such as with Swirl X or with polish category such as DC1.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Ultimate Polish

                              It certainly sounds to me like Ultimate Polish can be used, indeed is designed to be used, as a finishing polish. 85RD is considered by many to be the premier jeweling polish. It will be interesting to read the reviews of UP. I'm sure many people will be trying it out and comparing it to other jeweling polishes. It may have one advantage--namely, it is based on SMAT technology; hence the abrasives do not need to be broken down. One can stop the buffing cycle at any point. That's one reason I like M205.
                              I couldn't care less if a finishing polish is non diminishing or diminishing. What works is what is important.

                              It will be interesting to read the reviews. However I'm now not so certain as Mike avoided any reference to 85RD in his reply. From my point of view M205 doesn't finish well enough as compared to 85RD (whether DA or rotary), so maybe it is not the product I was looking for.

                              If one intends to apply a non-Meguiar's synthetic sealant, then UP may not save any steps for you. EZ-Creme is a synthetic glaze, and therefore compatible with synthetic sealants.
                              Well since I do use non Meg's synthetic sealants, looks like I maybe out of luck.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Ultimate Polish

                                Does it work like the Ultimate Quik Detailer?

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