Ultimate Paste Wax Experience

[Buck91]

This might not be the most complete review ever, but I just got done waxing with Ultimate paste wax and wanted to share. I've used Ultimate Liquid Wax twice previously, once on my '12 Mustang when it was brand new and once on my '96 Mustang after claybar and Ultimate Polish. Both times the ULW went on and spred great but did NOT want to dry or come off, despite what appeared to be a fairly thin spread, with the older car proving to be more difficult (though it was my first time with ULW, so that may have some effect).

The Ultimate Paste Wax (UPW) was totally different. Went on easy as anything and wiped off great. Now most areas I spread probably thinner than previously, but others I purposefully left thick. Didn't matter, as long as the UPW had a few minutes to dry it was gold. Maybe not quite as effortless as NXT2.0 is, but definately getting close.

Only one thing, I don't understand how everybody is using Ultimate waxz on black trim. Doesn't stain like carnuba but it just won't come off. I will be sticking with NXT2.0 for black trim as that just seems to work great for me, otherwise UPW has found a fan

[davey g-force]

Re: Ultimate Paste Wax Experience

Thanks for the review.

So did you apply to the whole car, let it dry, then buff off? Or did you apply/wipe off a section at a time?

Any streaking?

[Buck91]

Re: Ultimate Paste Wax Experience

Zero streaking, dried right up and buffed off eaasily. I kind of went panel by panel; basically would claybar a region then wax and wouldn't buff off until I have clayed and waxed the next section. Some sections didn't need claybar which resulted in various drying times. In all cases the paste wax dried rapidly and offered no streaking like I've seen with the liquid.

Like I said, still not as easily removed as NXT2.0 but definately MUCH closer.

[Top_Gun]

Re: Ultimate Paste Wax Experience

I have used M16 for two years and have just used Ultimate Paste Wax for the first time. The temperature was about 40 deg F (5 deg C), and I applied the wax on the whole car at once, then buffed it out. The wax spreads unbelievably thin, even thinner than M16, and buffs out noticably easier. Where M16 will get difficult on every patch which was applied thicker (this can and will happen), UPW is still easy to buff out.

The only drawback is the black towel - I prefer yellow or blue towels which make it easier to notice contamination. A tin without a towel at a reduced price would be nice :-)

Best regards,

Detlev

[Jossy92]

Re: Ultimate Paste Wax Experience

Maybe, it's a good idea to have both, maybe using the liquid for the second pass just for practice?

[One of the things I like about Meg's is that the forum gives me a chance to learn "about" detailing.
Learning "to" detail however takes practice.
Liquid UQW has helped me slow down and focus....when I do that I can achieve a "thin layer" that I can hardly see. I notice that I am now getting faster, so I guess I am starting to understand what "thin" feels like. I was considering switching to the paste, but the UQW was a challenge that was worth the effort.]

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Ultimate Paste Wax Experience

Ultimate Wax in paste form differs from the liquid version more noticeably than our other waxes differ in liquid vs paste forms due to some of the technology present in this product. First off, the thin film technology doesn't translate quite as dramatically into the paste as it does in liquid form, and the paste version will most likely still stain plastic and vinyl trim. Both of these issues are because of the ingredients needed to make it a paste and have that consistency. But compared to other paste waxes, including our own, UW paste still goes on very thin, spreads almost effortlessly, and it can still be used in direct sunlight on a warm surface - a claim we do not make for any of our other waxes, liquid or paste.

Buck91, you mentioned the use of UW on trim and your struggle to fully remove it. We don't recommend using the paste form on trim and suggest you avoid getting on the trim to start with. But the liquid version on trim is fine, and actually pretty nice!

[Buck91]

Re: Ultimate Paste Wax Experience

Buck91, you mentioned the use of UW on trim and your struggle to fully remove it. We don't recommend using the paste form on trim and suggest you avoid getting on the trim to start with. But the liquid version on trim is fine, and actually pretty nice!

So true. Its been a few months and a couple of washes with UQW applications as well as some significant highway rain storms. While I haven't gone to town with simple green/apc/etc and a brush the UPW is still visible on my lower black rocker trim as much as it was initially. Frankly I've just been lazy since its not really hruting anything at the moment. What would be the easiest way to remove it at this point- I was thinking next wash just to hit it with NXT2.0 and see if that clears it up, since sealants don't necessarily tend to layer very well... Or am I better just getting out the brush and HD cleaner?

[Ultraman]

Re: Ultimate Paste Wax Experience

All the claims on the pack are true. I'm now a fan of UPW. Compared to the NXT 2.0, it also leaves a deeper, darker shine. Plus in my rough, tropical climate, UPW lasts for about 3 weeks or after 3 washes, whichever comes first.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Ultimate Paste Wax Experience

We highly doubt that putting some NXT 2.0 over the dried UW on your trim piece will remove the UW residue. You're really better off cleaning that off with some APC or M39 and either a terry cloth towel or an old toothbrush.

[ra_clemente]

Re: Ultimate Paste Wax Experience

Hello guys, I'm from Brazil, new to the forum, have started to use Meguiars products recently.

Well, I have a new car, bought March this year, and I would like to detail it a bit, but I have a few questions.

I'm using this topic because I think maybe, it's similar.

First, is there a difference between the Ultimate Liquid Wax and the Ultimate Paste Wax? I saw some posts in the internet about paste wax recommended for darker colors, is this true?

Second, Since the car is new, what are the steps?: Wash > Clay > Ultimate Polish> Ultimate Wax or Wash > Clay > Ultimate Compound > Ultimate Polish > Ultimate Wax (better results with the compound? or just too aggressive?)

And my last question is about timing. For better results, should I wax the car, and after 1 hour remove it, and wax again after, or just wax once will have the same results.

Sorry if I'm not in the right section.

Thanks,

[Marc08EX]

Re: Ultimate Paste Wax Experience

Hello guys, I'm from Brazil, new to the forum, have started to use Meguiars products recently.

Well, I have a new car, bought March this year, and I would like to detail it a bit, but I have a few questions.

I'm using this topic because I think maybe, it's similar.

First, is there a difference between the Ultimate Liquid Wax and the Ultimate Paste Wax? I saw some posts in the internet about paste wax recommended for darker colors, is this true?

Second, Since the car is new, what are the steps?: Wash > Clay > Ultimate Polish> Ultimate Wax or Wash > Clay > Ultimate Compound > Ultimate Polish > Ultimate Wax (better results with the compound? or just too aggressive?)

And my last question is about timing. For better results, should I wax the car, and after 1 hour remove it, and wax again after, or just wax once will have the same results.

Sorry if I'm not in the right section.

Thanks,

I think your post should have been in the introduce yourself sub-forum.

The approach you're going to take will highly depend on how much defects you have on your paint finish. Do you have a lot of swirls or very minimal swirls? Being that your car was only purchased March of this year then you might have some minimal swirls (hopefully). At this point, I would go with your first suggested approach of:
Wash -> Clay -> Ultimate Polish -> Wax.

If you're unsatisfied with the results you got from the ultimate polish step and defects remain, then that means your cleaner/polish isn't aggressive enough to overcome the swirls/defects present in your paint finish. You can then step it up to SwirlX. If that doesn't work then step it up to Ultimate Compound. (Please keep in mind this is all done before waxing as waxing is the Last Step [LSP]). After using either SwirlX or UC then you can follow it up with UP to further refine the finish and make it a bit more glossy. After that then you can apply your favorite wax.

Traditional waxes usually need to be dried before wiping off and this can be achieved by doing the swipe test.

However, Ultimate Wax allows you to do a wipe-on wipe-off type of application where you only wait 3-5 minutes before wiping it off. More information can be found here: Meguiar's Quik Tips Video Series Ultimate Liquid Wax.

[seckinb]

Re: Ultimate Paste Wax Experience

I bought them both just to see this. Haven't tried any, though. So NXT2.0, still the most durable one, as it was the claim?

Maybe, it's a good idea to have both, maybe using the liquid for the second pass just for practice?

[One of the things I like about Meg's is that the forum gives me a chance to learn "about" detailing.
Learning "to" detail however takes practice.
Liquid UQW has helped me slow down and focus....when I do that I can achieve a "thin layer" that I can hardly see. I notice that I am now getting faster, so I guess I am starting to understand what "thin" feels like. I was considering switching to the paste, but the UQW was a challenge that was worth the effort.]

[davey g-force]

Re: Ultimate Paste Wax Experience

No, the claim is that UPW / ULW is more durable than NXT 2.0.

[seckinb]

Re: Ultimate Paste Wax Experience

No, the claim is that UPW / ULW is more durable than NXT 2.0.

There is special remark on the Turkish leaflet, describing NXT 2.0 as a durable protection sealant while UWax as an easy to use, hydrophobic wax so I needed to ask if there was anything special about NXT2.0. It may always be the translation mistake.

[Top_Gun]

The package for NXT 2.0 is from 2008 or 2009 and should be read in the context of that year's products ;-)