Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere

[ethereal45]

Re: Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere

I will be honest and making comparison to direct competitor on the market from a consumer's point of view.
Administrators please let me know if this post is not appropriate.

I would say this is an OTC version of Ultima Waterless Wash Plus + or Detailer's Pro Waterless Wash.
Do a Google search if you have never heard of them.
In 2 months time we will see a lot of posts on different detailing forums asking for a comparison between these 3 products.

The reason one of the competitors has been successful is because its very economical:
$18.99 (without rebate/coupon) for 16oz of concentrate,
User can dilute the concentrate to make 3.5 gallons of waterless wash spray that leave behind excellent shine, gloss, slickness and boost protection.
Besides, it cleans better and safer than a quick detailer and some people are dumping their QD sprays for that product.
In other words thats 23.59oz of an multi-purpose product that does not compromise per dollar.


If Meguiar's does not offer a concentrate that is even better than the competitor (can that be even cheaper, better than their competitors?),
then it will be less appealing to detailing hobbyist or professionals in long run.

I agree it's not cheap, but if you are concerned about economy maybe take a look to the new detailer line waterless wash product. It's $40 for a gallon which will dilute to produce 128 gallons of wash. That's only 31 cents a gallon. This product, while admittedly not the same thing as the detailer line product, runs roughly $74 dollars per gallon. This product is roughly 238 times more expensive than the detailer line product is.

[1970judge]

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So this is basically like an ONR in a spray bottle? I have been waiting for this day to come! Sign me up for multiples when they arrive!

Onto my question, explain to me the process if I were doing an entire car? Since I have only used ONR this way I will use it as an example. How do you go about actually washing it? The way it sounds is I used 10 or so towels. Or can I mist on, wipe, dry wipe with another towel and reuse those same two towels? Or is that first wipe towel done for after I used up all clean sides?

[79elcamino]

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so this will not flash freeze then?

[Michael Stoops]

@PPLd - we understand what you're saying and 16oz of concentrate for that price is not far off ONR and likely in line with our new Detailer line product if we decide to offer it in a similar size. This product is aimed squarely on the very sizable market segment looking for an alternative to bucket washing or commercial car washing which is their only other choice. If they run through a commercial wash 5 time at an average of $10 per wash they've spent more than double what they would on a single bottle of this product.

@1970judge - how many towels you need will depend on how dirty the car is, of course, but using one folded towel for initial cleaning and a second for drying/final wipe. Grab a fresh towel for either or both steps as needed and you should be able to clean a mid size car with 4 to 6 towels.

[PPLd]

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@PPLd - we understand what you're saying and 16oz of concentrate for that price is not far off ONR and likely in line with our new Detailer line product if we decide to offer it in a similar size. This product is aimed squarely on the very sizable market segment looking for an alternative to bucket washing or commercial car washing which is their only other choice. If they run through a commercial wash 5 time at an average of $10 per wash they've spent more than double what they would on a single bottle of this product.

Mr Stoops,
Thanks for addressing my questions on "economical product".
However this Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere (UWWA?) is a ready-to-use WATERLESS WASH instead of Rinseless Wash like the new Detailer Line concentrate at 1:128 right?
Or can the Detailer Line be diluted at a different ratio to achieve a waterless wash?

In fact if you look at the $39.99/gal price for D114, and if I assume it can be diluted at same 8oz in 1 gal (8:128 = 1:16) to make it a quick detailer,
then we can have 8 gal of quick detailer from 1 gal of D114.
turn out to be $39.99/8gal,
which means $4.99875/gal,
that is more economical than $5.4257/gal of Ultima, PROVIDED MEGUIAR'S RECOMMEND D114 TO BE USED AS WATERLESS WASH.
*ONR isn't really recommended to be a Waterless wash product.

[Ultraman]

Great product! When will this be available in Asia?

[PPLd]

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Great product! When will this be available in Asia?

Meguiar's Asia usually takes half year to get those items here.

[jezz12]

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Meguiar's Asia usually takes half year to get those items here.

so I assume this product will be in the market somewhere in April or June?

[PPLd]

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so I assume this product will be in the market somewhere in April or June?

sorry i mean half year after the products become available on the market in USA
that means if things are available in Jan 2012, then we shd get them around June.
they sometimes have samples for selected customers/pro before things become widely available tho

[Alfisti]

Re: Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere

Just to point out to the few who've compared it to ONR...it's not the same type of product. Megs Rinseless Wash in the new Detailer Line compares to ONR.

[79elcamino]

This won't flash freeze then?

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere

Mr Stoops,
Thanks for addressing my questions on "economical product".
However this Ultimate Wash & Wax Anywhere (UWWA?) is a ready-to-use WATERLESS WASH instead of Rinseless Wash like the new Detailer Line concentrate at 1:128 right?
Or can the Detailer Line be diluted at a different ratio to achieve a waterless wash?

In fact if you look at the $39.99/gal price for D114, and if I assume it can be diluted at same 8oz in 1 gal (8:128 = 1:16) to make it a quick detailer,
then we can have 8 gal of quick detailer from 1 gal of D114.
turn out to be $39.99/8gal,
which means $4.99875/gal,
that is more economical than $5.4257/gal of Ultima, PROVIDED MEGUIAR'S RECOMMEND D114 TO BE USED AS WATERLESS WASH.
*ONR isn't really recommended to be a Waterless wash product.

Yes, this is a ready to use product - just pull the trigger and go. As for diluting the Detailer Line Rinse Free X-Press to use as a waterless wash, I'll have to talk to R&D about dilution ratio and if they recommend it. I don't think it would be an issue though.

Great product! When will this be available in Asia?

As has been pointed out, our new product deliveries to Asia often run 6 months or more behind domestic deliveries.

Just to point out to the few who've compared it to ONR...it's not the same type of product. Megs Rinseless Wash in the new Detailer Line compares to ONR.

That is correct.

This won't flash freeze then?

Well, just how cold a temp are you thinking about using it in? 5F might be problematic, but in a garage you can probably get away with it at very cold temps as long as you act quickly enough. But the sprayer isn't an atomizer or super fine sprayer so that alone should not pose an issue.

[CumminsCrazed]

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ok so, for my custom truck i have, what would be abetter choice for me after i get to car shows, i pre detai teh truck prior to the show, so would the no rinse express wash be better, or the quick wash n wax anywhere stuff.

[PPLd]

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ok so, for my custom truck i have, what would be abetter choice for me after i get to car shows, i pre detai teh truck prior to the show, so would the no rinse express wash be better, or the quick wash n wax anywhere stuff.

u still need a bucket of wash solution for rinseless wash,
so if u dont have a water source and bucket with u,
a waterless wash and wax anywhere will be a better choice.

[seckinb]

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This kind of strong cleaner QD's seem to work very well for cleaning between layers of LSPs. Our climate is mostly dirty and you really can't trust a bare QD to clean 1-2 days old dust safely. Would be looking forward to try this one.