Black Wax

[1994Gen1L]

Re: Black Wax

Blackwax available Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Meguiars-G6207...ywords=meguiar

It also says that it usually ships within 1 to 2 months.

[1994Gen1L]

Re: Black Wax

I'm still playing with this mix, but the composition I wrote down (again, a work in progress) is as follows:
45% ULW
20% M26
5% GCC
20% UP
10% SwX

What I was trying to achieve was a AIO that could correct very minor defects, while having a lot of polish in it and wax that may act as a filler to hide scratches. I would personally rather hide scratches than buff them out, as I work by hand. I find that M26 hides scratches best out of GCC, ULW, and cleaner wax. The 5% GCC was an experiment, if you make this, add a little more M26 and leave the GCC out.
It's still a work in progress, if you or anyone modifies this and finds a composition that works better/differently, I would be ecstatic to hear it.
Edit: Also, when blending Megs products, it can be difficult to get them mixed up well, so be sure to mix/shake them up very well. There should be no discrepancy in the color.

Do you have any before and after pictures? What is the protection like?

[Rocksteady-Rebel]

Whoa my head is spinning here.
Seems like many of you are using like a thousand steps to what seems to be an easy process...

Michael what other products would you recommend to use with this new black wax?
I see some people here doing all sorts of guru mixtures to improve what I feel is already been done. Is it best to use this with UC UW then use this instead of ULW?

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Black Wax

If the paint is need of moderate to serious correction, we're going to recommend a proper correction using UC and a DA before applying Black Wax. Because of the light cleaning ability and good polish load of Black Wax, you might be able to skip Ultimate Polish between UC and BW. But that's really going to depend on your ultimate goals for the vehicle, how the paint responds, etc. It is quite likely, though, that a correction with UC that doesn't create any micro marring can be followed with Black Wax and you're done.

[lionshark]

Re: Black Wax

im thinking......if you use black wax (and have to tape up your trim because of it) why not just use the UP and the UW because you can get all the things you might have missed with the tape on the trim. I can see putting tape on the trim and using black wax could b used as a one step process...but essentially it would be a "cheaper" way of doing it in my opinion. the job just would b a little subpar imo....thoughts?

[Murr1525]

Re: Black Wax

Well, this is advertised for the average Joe, even though any detailer would be able to use it.

For the average Joe working by hand, taping up trim wouldnt really be done anyway. And they may only do one or two steps, not a full UP/UW/UW, etc...

[Garabaldi]

Re: Black Wax

I plan on picking up some Black Wax soon to use on my one year old Ruby Red Hyundai Sonata. For application via DA, what technique, speed setting, and pad combination will yield best results? Thank you.

[Murr1525]

Re: Black Wax

Well, if no defects to remove, you can apply it with a finishing pad, somewhere around speed 3-4.

Not sure what you mean by technique.

[Garabaldi]

Re: Black Wax

Thank you, Murr. Sorry for the lack of clarity - technique as in how much pressure to apply, how many overlapping section passes to make, and hand speed / how quickly to move the polisher around the working area.

Also, if minor defects are present, should Black Wax be used with a polishing pad at speed 5/6?

[Rocksteady-Rebel]

I think it be hard to say how many passes, depends on how you want the finish project to look. But if its the finishing pad there shouldn't be that much pressure at all.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: Black Wax

Since this is essentially a polish wax with extremely light cleaners, we don't anticipate being able to correct even minor defects like White Wax has proven to be so capable of. It may well hide them to some degree, however, due to the polish load in it. That said, if you really want to eliminate any defects prior to application, we would recommend either a dedicated paint cleaner first, with a polishing pad, or maybe even opting for White Wax instead. You can always top White Wax with Ultimate Wax, NXT, etc if you so desire.

Otherwise, since Black Wax has fairly limited cleaning ability, application should be done with a finishing pad and the DA set to speed 3 to 4, light to moderate pressure, and arm speed fairly typical for wax application. That means certainly faster than you would for a polish or compound since you're really just spreading a thin layer of product onto the paint. White Wax can be applied the same way, or you can step up to a polishing pad, speed 5, moderate pressure and much slower arm movements in order to let the cleaners do their thing. With either wax you can apply to all the painted surfaces of the vehicle, allow to dry, and then wipe off.

[Garabaldi]

Re: Black Wax

Thank you so much, Mike. Your post was extremely helpful!!

[jaf06se]

When will these (white and black wax) be available in local stores? Or will these be just an online only product?

[SailorMan]

Re: Black Wax

My sense is that Black Wax lacks the hydrophobic technology of ULW or NLT; is that indeed the case?

Assuming that lack, could I use BW for the polishing oils and follow with a coat of ULW or UQW for that added protection? Currently, I use UP and ULW on my Jet Black BMW - the results are terrific, but I find hand application of UP to be tedious. Thus, my interest in substituting BW, assuming (again) that its application is less laborious than that of UP.

Jer

[Murr1525]

Re: Black Wax

My sense is that Black Wax lacks the hydrophobic technology of ULW or NLT; is that indeed the case?

Yes

Assuming that lack, could I use BW for the polishing oils and follow with a coat of ULW or UQW for that added protection?

Yes. A cleaner/wax followed by a coat of regular was is a very popular combination for a quick detail.