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    what is causing residue to occur? M105 with W8000 pad



    1989 Mercedes 560 sec. original paint

    I am using a Makita rotary on level 3 (1500rpm) with an 8" W8000 pad. Outside temperature is approximately 64 degrees. I am in the sun, but the body is cool to the touch. This occurs after approximately 15 seconds of buff time. The only way to get it off is to soak the area in M34 and wipe down firmly with a microfiber. A light mist of M34 and more buffing does nothing.

    The car has not been buffer or waxed in years. It been sitting outside and the paint is in terrible condition, possibly very dried out. It does have some clearcoat failure on the top surfaces. I used M80 on a W8000 pad as well, but resulted in the same difficult to remove residue being left behind.
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    Re: what is causing residue to occur? M105 with W8000 pad

    Too much product?
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    I own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.

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    Re: what is causing residue to occur? M105 with W8000 pad

    could have been. Although I wasn't using all that much. I ended up switching to a wool pad with the 105 and it worked much better. Only got a fender and hood completed this afternoon, so I still have a lot more to do. Not sure if I'll follow up with M205 or M80.
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    Re: what is causing residue to occur? M105 with W8000 pad

    Looks like you over worked the product to the point that it dried out on you.

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    Re: what is causing residue to occur? M105 with W8000 pad

    This was occurring just after spreading the product. I was able to work it far longer than 15 seconds on the wool.
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    Re: what is causing residue to occur? M105 with W8000 pad

    M105 can dry up fast on older and/or neglected surfaces. M80 would usually be my recommendation then follow with M105, but if that's doing the same for you....

    How are you applying the product? Directly to the pad or a strip on the paintwork you pick up "on the move"?

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    Re: what is causing residue to occur? M105 with W8000 pad

    On flat surfaces I was applying it to the paint and picking it up. On vertical surfaces I was applying it to the pad.
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    Re: what is causing residue to occur? M105 with W8000 pad

    Try to work in the shade or garage if you can. I know that's not always possible...

    I'd clay the paint first. How does the paint feel after the clay? Should be smooth to the touch.

    'Prime' the foam pad to begin. Add a bead of product to the panel to pick up as you've been doing and buff a small area. Maybe 12"x 12" max. Use a lower speed on your rotary and move slowly over the area keeping an eye on the area as you go and keep the pad flat against the panel. Don't overwork the product. Try one section pass and check your results. The idea of the M80 is to hydrate the paint and that should make the paint more user friendly for a next step compounding with M105.

    Just thinking here, but you are using a clean, dedicated pad for M105 and a different one for the M80 right? Have you used a rotary before and if so, how we're your results then?

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    Re: what is causing residue to occur? M105 with W8000 pad

    WAY TO MUCH PRODUCT.

    This is the most common mistake,
    You only need a few drops AND THAT'S IT.
    I maybe use a couple of onces of product for the whole car

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    Re: what is causing residue to occur? M105 with W8000 pad

    Quote Originally Posted by Selectchoice View Post
    Just thinking here, but you are using a clean, dedicated pad for M105 and a different one for the M80 right? Have you used a rotary before and if so, how we're your results then?
    Yes. Typically I use a wool pad with M105, this was the first time I tried a foam pad. I've had great results in the past with the wool pad.

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