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    wow never knew this forum existed. i have been using meguiar's products for a few years now, but just simple product like wipes and liquid wax.
    i have a 99 accord dark emerald pearl. since winter is gone, it is time for the car to shine. my question is what kind of product do i need and in which order i have to apply the product???
    i was thinking:

    wash
    clay
    wash(is this step necessary)
    scracthx before colorx
    or
    colorx before scrachtx
    deep crystal polish
    wax

    i will be doing the whole car and kinda on a low budget

    thanks

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    Hi xi0utlawstarix,

    Welcome to Meguiar's Online!

    This forum is still relatively new as it went live at the end of January, 2004. Please feel encourage to share this site with your friends!

    If you use ScratchX, you don't need to use ColorX. If you only want to do one thing after washing and claying, then opt for the ColorX as this is an all-in-one product in that it cleans, polishes and protects in one step. Generally speaking, a multiple step process will produce better results.


    Here's a system that works very well by hand on most paint types. Remember, spend your time upfront on the cleaning step as this will completely determine your end-results. If you don't remove the defects during the ScratchX application, they will still be there when you make your final wipe to remove the last little bit of wax.

    Wash
    Clay if needed
    ScratchX to remove swirls
    Deep Crystal Polish to restore brilliance, clarity and rich color
    Wax to protect the paint and lock in the results from the above

    Here's what can be done with ScratchX,

    Often times when the topic of removing swirls is being discussed on our discussion forum, or some other detailing forum, it centers around the dual action polisher, foam buffing pads and somebody's compound or polish. Yet many people don't own a dual action polisher. So here at Meguiar's Garage, we like to show people how to use the what they already own... their hands!



    Like most detailing enthusiasts, I personally love a challenge, and with Tom's car, I believe most people would agree, his car's finish presents a challenge!

    BEFORE - 700 Pixel-wide cropped out section from an un-touched, original photo of rotary buffer swirls in a clear coat finish.




    Using some painters tape, we taped-off a section of the hood to separate the before and after results. Then, we applied three, well worked in applications of Meguiar's ScratchX all applied by hand using Meguiar's High-Tech Applicator Pad






    The secret to removing swirls by hand using Meguiar's ScratchX is all in your technique. You see in order to remove swirls out of your car's finish, you need to remove a little bit of paint. If we we're to look at a horizontal view of what gross rotary buffer swirls look like in the paint, it would look something like the diagram below. In order to remove these below surface defects, (swirls), you need to remove enough paint from the finish to level the upper surface with the lowest depths of the swirls until you've restored the finish to a flat, level surface.




    To do this by hand with ScratchX, you need to,
    • * Apply to a small section at a time
      * First spread the ScratchX evenly over the area you're going to work (before working it in)
      * Work the microscopic diminishing abrasives against the finish applying a little passion behind the applicator pad
      * Repeat this process with multiple applications after first removing the residue from each application after working it against the finish




    Remember that Meguiar's paint cleaners, like ScratchX do not need to dry before removing. Drying adds no benefit. The only Meguiar's paint products that need to dry before removing are Meguiar's waxes.

    Technique Tip

    The question is often asked,

    "Which direction should I move my hand when applying a Meguiar's paint cleaner?"

    A common mis-conception, often espoused on other discussion forums, or by some car care product manufactures, is the technique of only rubbing a product in a certain direction to keep all of your scratches going in the same direction.

    Meguiar's teaches that if the products you're using are non-abrasive, that is they are not instilling scratches into the finish, as such, it shouldn't matter which direction you move your hand!

    If the products you're using are inflicting scratches into your car's finish, the correct thing to do is to stop using the product! Don't try to camouflage the scratches to your eyes by instilling them in straight-lines as determined by the movement of your hand.

    ScratchX can be applied using straight-lines or circular motion and for this particular demonstration we used a combination of both.

    Removing ScratchX using Meguiar's Supreme Shine Microfiber after working the product against the finish until the product has broken down, turned somewhat clear and begun to dissipate.



    At Meguiar's Saturday Detailing 101 classes, we go through a power point presentation that covers a wide spectrum of detailing topics, one of which is Meguiar's 5-Step Paint Care Cycle , which includes;
    • Step 1 Wash
      Step 2 Clean
      Step 3 Polish
      Step 4 Protect
      Step 5 Maintain

    After cleaning the paint with a paint cleaner like ScratchX, we then apply a pure polish, in this case, Deep Crystal Polish which is a non-abrasive pure polish.



    In Meguiar's line, we offer two types of polishes, cleaner/polishes, which contain a diminishing abrasive, and pure polishes, which are completely non-abrasive and are used solely for the purpose of creating brilliant gloss. Deep Crystal Polish is a pure polish.



    The way you apply a pure polish is akin to applying a skin lotion to your skin. That is you apply the polish to a small section at a time, work the product in thoroughly.



    After thoroughly, (but gently with care and passion), remove any excess polish with a clean, soft premium quality microfiber polishing cloth or 100% cotton towel.



    Like ScratchX a paint cleaner, it is not necessary to let a pure polish like Deep Crystal Polish dry before removing it. Allowing a polish to dry will not add anything beneficial to the process, so after you work it in well, go a head and remove it.

    At this point, we have cleaned and polished the finish. The cleaning step removed the swirls and the polishing step restored optical clarity, depth, reflectivity, richness of color and brilliant gloss. Next we're going to apply a coating of Meguiar's new NXT Generation Tech Wax Paste



    NXT Generation Tech Wax Paste is identical to NXT Generation Tech Wax Liquid except that it comes in a paste form. There are two types of paste waxes, the difference is in their consistency. The practical application difference is in how you remove them from the can and then apply them.

    With a cleaner/wax (paste), like Meguiar's A12 Meguiar's Cleaner/Wax you can scoop out a small amount and with your applicator pad and then apply it to the finish and work it in.



    With paste waxes like Gold Class Clear Coat Wax Paste, M26 Hi Tech Yellow Wax, and NXT Generation Tech Wax Paste, instead of scooping wax out of the can, you can twist, or spin your wax applicator against the wax while it's in the can and this little bit of agitation will help to liquefy the wax and enable it to seep, or penetrate into your applicator pad whereupon making it easier to apply to the finish.





    Paste waxes like NXT Tech Generation Wax offer good gliding action and tend to apply very easy. Remember a little bit goes a long ways and it's important to try to apply a uniform, thin coating.

    After applying the Tech Wax Paste and allowing it to dry, we removed it using a Supreme Shine Microfiber polishing cloth and the Tom backed his Mercedes-Benz out into the sun where everyone could look at the results and see with their own two eyes what can be accomplished by hand with the right products and the correct techniques.







    Here's the owner Tom inspecting closely!



    And here I am capturing the results with our Sony Digital which does an excellent job of capture swirls in the sun.



    Before



    After
















    Perfect? No.

    dramatically improved? Yes!

    Most importantly, we fixed by hand what someone else inflicted with a rotary buffer.

    Next up, we'll see what we can do to the same finish using Meguiar's G100 and the right products and techniques.
    Mike Phillips
    760-515-0444
    showcargarage@gmail.com

    "Find something you like and use it often"

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    • #3
      thanks....i will tell all my friends bout this forum...
      1 more question
      it is better to work indoor or outdoor???

      thanks
      thorn

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      • #4
        Never work in direct sunlight. Move the car into the shade.

        If the car is hot from the sun let it cool down before applying any products or wash it with cool water first.


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