M205/mfc=haze

[FCAD]

This has never happened to me before until last weekend. I started polishing a black Dodge Ram and I noticed some serious HAZING with a MF Cutting pad with M205 on my Rupes LHR21ES. I have never had 205 haze up like it did. I couldn't figure out how to remove it until I use a Foam Polishing pad. Any ideas why this happened? Old product "M205"? I'm stumped. I also tried 105 and that didn't do anything.

I've had the 105 and 205 for a few years now.

[C8N]

Re: M205/mfc=haze

When you say it has never happened before, was it the same truck, same pad and same machine?
Hazing will happen when you get too aggressive for the paint. Hence, M105 being the more aggressive chemical, it would not have cleared up the hazing. It probably would have made it worse.

[Michael Stoops]

Re: M205/mfc=haze

There is a pretty high potential for hazing with the microfiber cutting pads, regardless what product you use with it. The M205 was not the culprit here, it was the pad. Well, more to the point - it was the paint. If you're going to get haze with microfiber, it's most likely going to show up on non metallic black paint simply because that color shows everything. Very hard paints almost never haze with the microfiber pads, but softer paints will. We've worked on a certain non metallic black Toyota Prius that we would never even consider putting microfiber pads to - clay hazes the heck out of it! We've worked on some Mercedes models with non metallic black paint that hate the microfiber system because they haze like crazy, and the same can be said for most Jet Black BMWs.

It simply sounds like this particular Dodge pickup and the microfiber pad just didn't get along. It happens; there is no one single product/pad combo that works equally well on every paint.

You mentioned that you could clear it up with a foam pad.... were you still running M205 on that foam pad? You also said that M105 "didn't do anything"..... what exactly does that mean? It didn't clean up the haze when used with a microfiber pad? A very common process when hazing occurs, even with D300 on a cutting pad, is to follow with M205 on foam to remove the haze prior to waxing. It is this potential for hazing with the microfiber cutting pad that prompted us to introduce D302 Microfiber Polish late last year. D302 is designed with one thing in mind; remove haze created by the defect removal process with microfiber pads.

[FCAD]

Re: M205/mfc=haze

Thanks guys. Yes I used m205 on a Foam pad and it removed the hazing. I tried 105 on a MF Finished pad and it did nothing. This truck was non metallic so it makes since very soft paint. The Foam pad removed all of the hazing. I had a brain fart that day and should have started out with the least aggressive method first to test how soft the paint was.

Thanks again guys.