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    Re: NEW! DA Foam Discs and Backing Plates

    Quote Originally Posted by dbssoccer View Post
    Could someone explain why there are all the sizes? 3" - 6"? What drives your decision to use one over the another?

    I have a pneumatic DA sander (a good one with plenty of air to drive it). It came optional with 4", 5" or 6". It has a 5/16" diameter stud so I can use any of new backing plates. I'm now just wondering which size to buy.
    We make these new backing plates to fit a variety of needs. A 3" plate/pads on a DA concentrates the energy of the tool into a smaller area which increases cut. But more commonly that combo is used to get into tighter areas where a larger pad simply won't fit. If using a traditional style DA buffer, and most definitely when using our new MT300, the 5" plate and discs are highly recommended. Still, some people like the 6" plate because they have a bunch of existing 6" pads, or they use another tool that requires 6" pads and, rather than have both 5" and 6" inventory, they just run a 6" plate on their secondary tool.

    Pneumatic DA sanders, while providing the same motion to the pad as an electric DA tool does, just don't have the sort of torque needed to do heavy correction. They can be fantastic for light polishing and wax application, however. You'd probably want to stick with 5" discs with that tool, so go with the 5" backing plate.
    Quote Originally Posted by greymda View Post
    would this backing plate support the new 5" foam discs? (link here)
    Yes, it would, in theory. What we don't for sure about that plate is how stiff it is, or isn't. A stiffer plate will better transfer power from the tool through the foam disc and result in better cut. From the description of this plate it sounds as though it's very flexible at the edges which may not be the best thing for defect removal. The other concern is the appearance of the loop material on it as it does not appear to be a micro hook. That can be problematic as a taller hook on a DA can create a lot of heat where the pad and plate come together. This is only made worse when the hook on the plate does not match up with the loop on the pad/disc - heat can become excessive in very short order, and over time it can and will wear out both the hook and loop materials, making engagement of the pad/disc to the plate less secure. If you're looking at this particular plate for budgetary reasons, this may prove to be a false economy. Our plate (this one) is a mere $7 more and ensures that you've got the right size, the right hook, and the correct stiffness for optimum efficiency.
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    Re: NEW! DA Foam Discs and Backing Plates

    Mr. Stoops, thank you for reply. will think about plates, but the difference is quite big for me (living abroad, so double the price is smth for me).

    another question is, do you recommend 5" or 6" for a Dual Actions polishers?

    kind regards

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    Re: NEW! DA Foam Discs and Backing Plates

    Thanks Michael,

    Yesterday I received my 5" backing plate and 2 each of the burgundy, yellow and black pads. I also have a clay kit for my one car which is rarely washed let alone polished or waxed.
    Now all I need is some time. As soon as I get a couple of more posts, I'll post a picture of the wheel on my one car and see if anyone has any ideas, short of buying new wheels, to clean up the mess.

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    Re: NEW! DA Foam Discs and Backing Plates

    оkay, so i bought all three DA Foam Discs and the 5" Backing Plate...
    the funny thing is i don't have the DA polisher yet delivered, it's coming from Germany on a bus, so it's kinda sporadic and emotional shopping today for me

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    Re: NEW! DA Foam Discs and Backing Plates

    i meant Meguiars Backing Plate.

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    Re: NEW! DA Foam Discs and Backing Plates

    received today 5" meguiars backing plate and 5" foam discs.
    the backing plate in the middle has some of the hooks jammed i hope it will not have any negative effect on its working properties...
    foam pads are okay.

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    Re: NEW! DA Foam Discs and Backing Plates

    Are there still no plans for 3" pads to go with the 3" backing plate?

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    Re: NEW! DA Foam Discs and Backing Plates

    I got a few questions about these new pads. I just went to order some new pads and realized you can't even get the original 9000 series pads anymore!! Ok here are my questions....

    • First, I purchased my DA machine from Meguiars way back in 1999, I still have the original backing plate, do I need to get a new backing plate to work with these new pads or will they work with my backing plate that is original from 1999?

    • Second, I notice these pads say machine washable. The pads I have used for almost 2 decades have not been machine washable. Do all of you typically wash these with all of your other microfiber towels etc after buffing a car or can they just be cleaned like we always have and reused without washing every buff job?

    • Last, I have three cars in my family and have found a system that works perfect, about once every 1-2 years I do a thorough buff job on the whole car with a yellow polishing pad and ultimate compound to knock away swirls and followed up by 205 on a black finishing pad to refine finish. Then every other polish job I just use a cleaner wax and top with a a pure wax like ultimate wax like 3 times a year. Anyways, what I'm trying to understand is the new yellow polishing pad about the same cut as what Im used to with the yellow polishing pads from decades of experience? Do you think with my routine and meticulous maintenance I don't even need to get the red cutting pads? Just how much more cut do the red cutting pads have?

    Thanks,
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    Re: NEW! DA Foam Discs and Backing Plates

    The new thin yellow foam discs have more cut than the original yellow ones.

    So if yellow pads were doing the job previously, they will certainly do so now. No need to by the burgundy cutting pads unless you want to be prepared for the odd deeper scratch, or harder paint (if you ever detail any one else's car).
    Quote Originally Posted by Blueline View Post
    I own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.

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    Re: NEW! DA Foam Discs and Backing Plates

    Quote Originally Posted by OhioCarBuff View Post
    I got a few questions about these new pads. I just went to order some new pads and realized you can't even get the original 9000 series pads anymore!! Ok here are my questions....

    • First, I purchased my DA machine from Meguiars way back in 1999, I still have the original backing plate, do I need to get a new backing plate to work with these new pads or will they work with my backing plate that is original from 1999?

    • Second, I notice these pads say machine washable. The pads I have used for almost 2 decades have not been machine washable. Do all of you typically wash these with all of your other microfiber towels etc after buffing a car or can they just be cleaned like we always have and reused without washing every buff job?

    • Last, I have three cars in my family and have found a system that works perfect, about once every 1-2 years I do a thorough buff job on the whole car with a yellow polishing pad and ultimate compound to knock away swirls and followed up by 205 on a black finishing pad to refine finish. Then every other polish job I just use a cleaner wax and top with a a pure wax like ultimate wax like 3 times a year. Anyways, what I'm trying to understand is the new yellow polishing pad about the same cut as what Im used to with the yellow polishing pads from decades of experience? Do you think with my routine and meticulous maintenance I don't even need to get the red cutting pads? Just how much more cut do the red cutting pads have?

    Thanks,
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    The new pads are great. I would consider the 5" pads and the 5" backing plate. It will transfer the power better from your machine.

    I wash mine by hand.

    The thinner pad will have more cut as it is thinner and transferring the tools power more effectively than a thicker foam pad. I would pick up a couple burgundy cutting pads. You never know when you may need them.

    Have you considered just using M205 instead of a cleaner wax. M205 will clean the paint and correct it better than cleaner wax. You will only have to do this once or twice a year depending on which sealant you use. These are sealants: ultimate wax, M21, NXT or paint protect 365. Paint Protect 365 will offer the longest protection of these. Save the cleaner wax for when you need to do a quick detail. Maybe even upgrade to white wax as it has more correcting and cleaning ability than the maroon cleaner wax.

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