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    Re: NEW! DA Foam Discs and Backing Plates

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Stoops View Post
    We're pretty confident that you guys will love these new pads, and the cutting pad especially is a bit of a rock star! It's a whole new foam compared to our previous W7xxx series of burgundy foam. On the DA it is flat out amazing! Personally, I've used it on really hard paint and pretty soft paint as well, and in all cases it cut like a demon and left a great finish. Whether I was using M100, Ultimate Compound, White Wax or D300 the results were universally fantastic. We almost hate to say this, but if you've ever struggled with heavy haze on very soft paint when using microfiber pads, this new cutting pad is just an incredible alternative. The finishing disc also uses totally new foam for even better finishing and smoother operation/feel. If you're currently using a G110v2 DA buffer, you'll notice the weight of these pads and their thin construction will pretty much transform that tool - it becomes much smoother in operation with these pads versus larger pads, whether our outgoing Soft Buff 2.0 pads or even other 6" pads.
    So, that begs a question: given the 7" Soft Buff 2.0 have been replaced with revised offerings, are the original SoftBuff 6.5" pads also being discontinued in favor of the 6" variant of these new pads?
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    Re: NEW! DA Foam Discs and Backing Plates

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    Can these new pads be used with the more powerful DAs like a flex 3401 or a Rupes 21?
    Yes, and that's we offer them in 6" size which is the perfect fit for those tools. And they are awesome on those tools, too! You may be aware of some thicker pads that have a very hard time holding up to the violent nature of the Rupes 21, but these pads don't suffer that. A large part of that is due to the thinner nature of these pads, which makes for less horizontal damping than you get from a thicker pad - especially with softer or less dense foam. We generally think about the cushioning effect of a pad in the vertical plane, but horizontally there can be a stretching of the foam as the tool forces it to change direction. The part of the pad closest to the backing plate will move with the tool while the foam in contact with the paint lags behind as the foam is stretched. We've read many, many accounts of a certain competitor's microfiber pads, that utilize fairly thick and quite soft foam, being destroyed by the Rupes 21 in less than 1/2 a car worth of work. That's not to say anything negative against the Rupes 21 - it's a great tool, for sure - but that very tall stroke can wreak havoc on lesser pads. These new foam discs play extremely well with that tool.
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    Re: NEW! DA Foam Discs and Backing Plates

    Quote Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy View Post
    The new backing plates are optional for the new pads? No Velcro issues like when the MF pads came out and it was recommended that you only use the new/current backing plate?

    And no foam pads for the 3" backing plate? (hint hint)
    You shouldn't have any issues using these new pads with our previous W67DA backing plate (the one we have always recommended with our DAMF System) or with other similar backing plates. These backing plates are an update on the W67DA as they are more durable with their fiberglass core and additional rivets on the stud plate. These are also suitable for use with our DAMF System. And, no, no 3" versions of these foam pads.

    Quote Originally Posted by C. Charles Hahn View Post
    So, that begs a question: given the 7" Soft Buff 2.0 have been replaced with revised offerings, are the original SoftBuff 6.5" pads also being discontinued in favor of the 6" variant of these new pads?
    Our entire foam pad lineup has been totally and completely revamped. Gone are all versions of the older pads, with these new DA Foam Discs being our offering for DA polisher use, and the new rotary pads being the only offering for rotary tools.

    As mentioned in the product descriptions, the burgundy foam here and on the rotary pads is brand new and quite different from our outgoing burgundy foam pads, regardless of generation. The cutting pads generate less heat than the outgoing pads, and on a DA the old hazing issues are gone and, in fact, the cutting disc on a DA tends to leave a fantastic finish, even on softer paints. The yellow foam construction carries over from the outgoing pads. The black foam finishing, again both here and the rotary pads, is all new and a big step up in finishing ability. Very smooth feel and great for finish polishing on finicky paints.
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    Re: NEW! DA Foam Discs and Backing Plates

    These new pads and backing plates are nice. Nice to see the 3" backing plate get revamped.

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    Re: NEW! DA Foam Discs and Backing Plates

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Stoops View Post
    You shouldn't have any issues using these new pads with our previous W67DA backing plate (the one we have always recommended with our DAMF System) or with other similar backing plates. These backing plates are an update on the W67DA as they are more durable with their fiberglass core and additional rivets on the stud plate. These are also suitable for use with our DAMF System. And, no, no 3" versions of these foam pads.
    So the W67DA is being replaced by the new 5" plate? So no 3" pads...4" to go with the 3" backing plate?

    BTW fantastic idea putting the rotation line on, and the additional rivets/core make these the plates to beat.

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    Re: NEW! DA Foam Discs and Backing Plates

    Can I use the new 6" foam pads with my W68DA Backing plate? Speaking of backing pates, will the new backing platea fit onto my Porter-Cable 7424XP machine which accepts Spindle 5/16 Thread 24?

    Thanks!

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    Re: NEW! DA Foam Discs and Backing Plates

    This looks really exciting (although just purchased the W67DA and S3BP pads not so long ago... )
    Anyhow, hate to ask this, but any chance to update the Let's talk about "Total Cut" chart, as now considering both microfiber and these new foam pads (including the cutting pad), and M100, M101, D300, ultimate polish (just to name a few that is not on the chart), there is endless permutations of product/pad combos, which makes the hobbyist head to start spinning?
    Ie. is the new cutting foam discs still less aggressive than the microfiber cutting disc? Many thanks!

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    Re: NEW! DA Foam Discs and Backing Plates

    looks like I'll be putting my unused 7 inch soft buff 2.0 Black/Yellow pads for sale

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    Re: NEW! DA Foam Discs and Backing Plates

    Quote Originally Posted by szladob View Post
    ...now considering both microfiber and these new foam pads (including the cutting pad), and M100, M101, D300, ultimate polish (just to name a few that is not on the chart), there is endless permutations of product/pad combos, which makes the hobbyist head to start spinning?
    Then start taking into account all the other companies out there that make very similar products. I do this for a living and can't seem to find the time even try them all before new ones are introduced. You gotta work just to keep up!! But it's better than not having options.
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    Re: NEW! DA Foam Discs and Backing Plates

    Quote Originally Posted by Vettefan View Post
    Can I use the new 6" foam pads with my W68DA Backing plate? Speaking of backing pates, will the new backing platea fit onto my Porter-Cable 7424XP machine which accepts Spindle 5/16 Thread 24?

    Thanks!
    No, the new 6" foam discs are not compatible with the W68DA backing plate. That plate does not have hook material all the way to the outer edge so you would lose engagement with the pad - not a good idea at all. These new plates will, however, work with all popular DA tools on the market - G110v2, PC7424, Griot's Garage, Harbor Freight, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by szladob View Post
    This looks really exciting (although just purchased the W67DA and S3BP pads not so long ago... )
    Anyhow, hate to ask this, but any chance to update the Let's talk about "Total Cut" chart, as now considering both microfiber and these new foam pads (including the cutting pad), and M100, M101, D300, ultimate polish (just to name a few that is not on the chart), there is endless permutations of product/pad combos, which makes the hobbyist head to start spinning?
    Ie. is the new cutting foam discs still less aggressive than the microfiber cutting disc? Many thanks!
    The new foam cutting disc is very close in aggressiveness to the DMC5 microfiber cutting disc, but on haze prone paint the foam will likely leave a nicer finish. In fact, the foam will likely leave a very nice finish, and we've seen it leave a finish that was LSP ready.
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