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  • NEW! Meguiar's Foam Buffing Discs

    Meguiar's Foam Buffing Discs


    Jason Rose a long time friend and peer in the professional detailing industry approached me back in March of 2014 after Autogeek’s Detail Fest had concluded and asked me if I would like to do some testing with some prototype foam pads he was working on for Meguiar’s.

    Of course I said yes!


    He handed me a box and I opened it up and years of waiting for someone to introduce thing foam buffing pads had just come to an end.

    Meguiar’s Foam Discs!


    I like to think of them as wafer pads myself, a term my friend and colleague at Meguiar’s Scott Smith coined back around 2004, maybe 2005. That’s because the foam prototypes Scott had been working on were incredibly thin to the point of looking like a thin wafer, like a Necco candies.

    In case you've never eaten Necco candies before they are quite delicious and the candy itself is a somewhat large, thin wafer. The label even describes the candy as a wafer. I like the black ones the best.
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    I knew the moment I saw them they would be a success and guys would love them because it’s a simple fact that THIN foam pads rotate better and thus perform more efficiently on dual action polisher like the Meguiar’s G110v2 or the Porter Cable 7424XP.

    The reason why is really simple and that’s because there’s less mass overall for these types of tool to rotate. The mass issue isn’t an isolated issue it’s also what happens to the mass as you work around a car and that’s another issue called,

    Pad Saturation


    As you work around a car you buff section by section and panel by panel. Each time you finish a section of a panel, when you go to start a new section you add fresh product to the face of the buffing pad. Then you place the buffing pad against the surface of the paint and each time you do this some of the product is pushed up inside of the cells that make up the foam buffing pad. After buffing a few sections you can inject enough liquid from the product you’re using to begin to saturate the pad.



    Here’s the deal…
    Thick, large wet pads rotate even worse than thick, large dry pads. And the reason this is a problem is because if the pad is not rotating…. You are not removing any defects. So pad rotation is key to successful compounding and polishing and even when using a one-step cleaner/wax or AIO.

    By reducing the thickness of the buffing pad you increase the ability for these types of dual action polishers to maintain pad rotation when wet or dry.

    Why did it take the industry so long to figure this out?

    I wrote about this in my first how-to book, both the first and the second edition and even coined the term back in 2010...




    Regardless of the past…
    The good news is we now have thin foam buffing pads and I didn’t have to test them to know they were going to work great and also be a home run for Meguiar’s.

    I did test them and gave m feedback to Jason. Then right before SEMA, when these new pads would be introduced to the detailing world I hunted down the perfect candidate car to showcase these pads.

    A totally swirled out 2010 Camaro!


    The new Meguiar’s thin pads come in 2 different sizes and three different foam formulas and measure 11/16" of an inch or 17.5 millimeters.

    6 1/4” and 5.5” are the diameters and here are the color codes for they types of pads.
    Burgundy = Cutting
    Yellow = Polishing
    Black = Finishing



    These new thin pads work great on any dual action polisher including,

    Meguiar’s G110v2
    Porter Cable 7424XP
    Griot’s Garage 6” DA
    Rupes Bigfoot 15 & 21 as well as the Duetto
    Flex 3401 with the factory 5.5” backing plate

    They also revamped their 7” Softbuff line of pads with a new cup style recessed design to the back where they attach to the backing plate. These traditional thick foam buffing pads work great with rotary buffers as well as the Flex 3401 Dual Action Polisher and the Rupes Bigfoot 21.


    I know all you guys are going to love these new pad lines from Meguiar’s. I’ve already typed too much so now I’ll just let the pictures do the talking.
    Mike Phillips
    760-515-0444
    showcargarage@gmail.com

    "Find something you like and use it often"

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    Re: NEW! Meguiar

    First here's some shots of the pads and the products we're going to use for this 2010 Camaro project.








    Mike Phillips
    760-515-0444
    showcargarage@gmail.com

    "Find something you like and use it often"

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    • #3
      Re: NEW! Meguiar

      Now lets see them in ACTION!


      Meguiar's new foam cutting pads with Meguiar's M101





















































      Mike Phillips
      760-515-0444
      showcargarage@gmail.com

      "Find something you like and use it often"

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      • #4
        Re: NEW! Meguiar

        Next up the yellow polishing pads with M205....



























        Mike Phillips
        760-515-0444
        showcargarage@gmail.com

        "Find something you like and use it often"

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        • #5
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          The black finishing pads with M26 Hi Tech Yellow Wax...

























          Mike Phillips
          760-515-0444
          showcargarage@gmail.com

          "Find something you like and use it often"

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          • #6
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            Removing the wax to reveal the final results

            After allowing the wax to dry to a haze we carefully removed it. Here's the guys wearing microfiber gloves and the super soft rolled-edge microfiber towels to wipe the LSP off....











            In this shot you can see Chris pointing towards the big screen which has pictures of the before condition of the paint showing all the swirls....




            Mike Phillips
            760-515-0444
            showcargarage@gmail.com

            "Find something you like and use it often"

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            • #7
              Re: NEW! Meguiar

              And here are the results....























              Last edited by Mike Phillips; Nov 4, 2014, 08:15 AM. Reason: Emoticon didn't show up...
              Mike Phillips
              760-515-0444
              showcargarage@gmail.com

              "Find something you like and use it often"

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              • #8
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                Here's the SUN shots....

                Compare these to the "before sun shots"




































                Mike Phillips
                760-515-0444
                showcargarage@gmail.com

                "Find something you like and use it often"

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                • #9
                  Re: NEW! Meguiar

                  And what did the paint look like before we buffed it out?

                  I'm glad you asked because I always document the before condtion....










                  [IMG]http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/watermark.php?file=837936/IMG]























































                  Mike Phillips
                  760-515-0444
                  showcargarage@gmail.com

                  "Find something you like and use it often"

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                  • #10
                    Re: NEW! Meguiar

                    All these pads work great but when it comes to dual action polishers with a free floating spindle bearing assembly...


                    Thin is in...







                    Mike Phillips
                    760-515-0444
                    showcargarage@gmail.com

                    "Find something you like and use it often"

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                    • #11
                      Re: NEW! Meguiar

                      Hi Mike,

                      On the Rupes 21 was that a five inch backing plate and pad you were using or the six inch?

                      Great result on the Camaro btw!

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                      • #12
                        Re: NEW! Meguiar

                        Beautiful work!

                        But what's up with the geeky silver stickers on that nice car??
                        2021 BMW X3M Competition - Donington Gray
                        2020 Chevy Bolt - Arctic White
                        2019 Fiat 124 Spider - Brillante

                        Some look better than others....

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                        • #13
                          Re: NEW! Meguiar

                          Great write up Mike, as is your customary style!!

                          These new pads are really something, and the cutting pad has quickly become a new favorite of mine personally. Interesting that you used the thin foam DA pads on a rotary in some images here, Mike. We know that several have played with them that way and all have reported great results.
                          Michael Stoops
                          Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                          Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                          • #14
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                            Amazing work as always! Love that color! And great combo of products you used. Haven't tried the M101 yet but hopefully next order or so.
                            ''USE THE LEAST AGGRESSIVE PRODUCT TO GET THE JOB DONE RIGHT''
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                            • #15
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                              Originally posted by Selectchoice View Post

                              Hi Mike,

                              On the Rupes 21 was that a five inch backing plate and pad you were using or the six inch?
                              That's a 5" on the Rupes Bigfoot 21 with the washer mod. If you look closely you'll see some 3M Blue Vinyl Tape wrapped around the body of the tool. I placed this tape on this tool as a visual indicator to make it easy to find this Rupes Bigfoot 21 out of the dozen or so Rupes polishers in the garage for our detailing classes. I didn't install the washer mod, this Bigfoot 21 was a "return" to Autogeek. I left it this way for anyone that wants to try a modded Rupes.



                              Originally posted by Selectchoice View Post


                              Great result on the Camaro btw!
                              Thanks....

                              The paint was trashed and as a way of showcasing the new Meguiar's pads I fully documented the before, process and after shots including the sun shots.


                              Mike Phillips
                              760-515-0444
                              showcargarage@gmail.com

                              "Find something you like and use it often"

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