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  • Paint Protect 365 vs Ultimate Wax vs M21 Behavior Test

    I took the time to set up a test of these three Meguiar's protection products. Ultimate Wax and M21 are some of the most popular protection products that perform well. I am putting them up against the new Paint Protect 365. This is more to show the sheeting and beading behavior of each product and not so much for durability. If I have the time I will perform some sort of durability test. Just depends on how much time I have. I may just wash it a few times. We shall see.

    But for now I have the hood prepped and will let it sit for 7 days to let paint protect fully cure before I get it wet. The hood will be sitting inside the garage this entire time.

    These are the products.



    This is the hood taped up to apply each product to it's area. From left to right the hood is set up as follows.

    Far left - used a 15% IPA wipe down to remove M205's polishing oils. This will be a control area #1.

    M21 - The next section has a coat of M21 on it. I didn't remove M205's polishing oils.

    Paint Protect 365 - The middle section has a coat of 365 on it. I didn't remove M205's polishing oils.

    Ultimate Wax - The next section has a coat of Ultimate Liquid Wax. I didn't remove M205's polishing oils.

    Far right - used a 15% IPA wip down to remove M205's polishing oils. This is control area #2.



    I chose to remove the tape lines. Well not entirely true. There are small areas underneath each section that I left tape on to give me an idea of where the tape line was. I did not notice any darkening of the paint from each product popping out right in front of me. It's hard to tell on a light color. Gloss/shine levels also appear to be the same on a light colored car. This is good news for someone that owns a light colored car. This would probably be different on a darker colored car. As we all know gloss comes from the prep work and this has hood has been prepped with D300 on a thin foam cutting disc and M205 on a thin polishing foam disc.




    We shall see how these behave after 1 week.
    99 Grand Prix
    02 Camaro SS

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    Re: Paint Protect 365 vs Ultimate Wax vs M21 Behavior Test

    Great, excited to see the outcome.
    2017 Lexus RX 350 - Satin Cashmere Metallic
    2016 Honda Odyssey Touring - Crystal Black Pearl
    2010 Ford F150 Lariat 4x4 - Royal Red Metallic

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      Re: Paint Protect 365 vs Ultimate Wax vs M21 Behavior Test

      waiting patiently
      Don
      12/27/2015
      "Darth Camaro"
      2013 Camaro ... triple black
      323 hp V6, 6 speed manual

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      • #4
        Thanks for the review, I have all 3 products as well.....looking forward to seeing the results
        "STRIFE" aka Phil
        2005 Infiniti G35 Coupe (IP/ aka White) the Toy
        2011 Subaru Impreza (SWP/ aka White) the DD
        2017 Subaru Forester (CWP/ aka White) Wifey's

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        • #5
          Re: Paint Protect 365 vs Ultimate Wax vs M21 Behavior Test

          I'm surprised davey hasn't chimed in yet . Just a few more days then I can show the behavior with all these.

          Originally posted by STRIFE View Post
          Thanks for the review, I have all 3 products as well.....looking forward to seeing the results
          I would be curious to hear your thoughts and experience on all these as you use them.
          99 Grand Prix
          02 Camaro SS

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          • #6
            Re: Paint Protect 365 vs Ultimate Wax vs M21 Behavior Test

            Waiting to see results! Very nice preparation for test.

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            • #7
              Re: Paint Protect 365 vs Ultimate Wax vs M21 Behavior Test

              Thanks for the amazing reviews on the PP365. I'm looking forward to seeing your findings. So far, the beading hasn't been spectacular based on what I've seen.
              2011 Car Crazy Showcase SEMA Team

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              • #8
                Re: Paint Protect 365 vs Ultimate Wax vs M21 Behavior Test

                Indeed an interesting evaluation of some products. I have used Ultimate Liquid Wax, I think, since it's introduction or perhaps my introduction to detailing. The environment around here just requires longevity products. My large sized bottle of M21 just sits on the shelf and I'm really looking forward to this evaluation of 365.

                Thanks for doing this.

                "fishing for swirls in a sea of black"
                ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                David

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                • #9
                  Re: Paint Protect 365 vs Ultimate Wax vs M21 Behavior Test

                  Originally posted by The Guz View Post
                  I'm surprised davey hasn't chimed in yet .
                  Ah, here is the test I've been waiting for! Thanks for doing this Michael
                  Originally posted by Blueline
                  I own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Paint Protect 365 vs Ultimate Wax vs M21 Behavior Test

                    If you plan on doing this test long term, and you really should, we'd love to see what happens when you wash the panel once a week with a proper car wash shampoo and gauge the progress over time.
                    Michael Stoops
                    Senior Global Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.

                    Remember, this hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need therapy.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Paint Protect 365 vs Ultimate Wax vs M21 Behavior Test

                      Will do my best to do a long term test on this.
                      99 Grand Prix
                      02 Camaro SS

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                      • #12
                        Re: Paint Protect 365 vs Ultimate Wax vs M21 Behavior Test

                        Quick update. I washed it today. So the hood had sat undisturbed for 15 days. Here are some beading photos and some videos. These were taken with my iphone.


                        I used the mist setting on the nozzle for these photos.

                        Here is the unprotected side



                        Here is the beading of ULW



                        Beading of Paint Protect 365. This is consistent with the beading I see on the hood that is on my daily driver.



                        Beading of M21. Looks a little like Paint Protect.



                        Some more beading shots from a different angle

                        ULW



                        M21



                        Paint Protect 365

                        99 Grand Prix
                        02 Camaro SS

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                        • #13
                          Re: Paint Protect 365 vs Ultimate Wax vs M21 Behavior Test

                          Here's a couple videos.

                          M21 sheeting



                          ULW Sheeting

                          99 Grand Prix
                          02 Camaro SS

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                            Re: Paint Protect 365 vs Ultimate Wax vs M21 Behavior Test

                            Continued:

                            Paint Protect Sheeting



                            Tried to simulate some rain with the shower setting on the nozzle and holding it high.

                            99 Grand Prix
                            02 Camaro SS

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                            • #15
                              Re: Paint Protect 365 vs Ultimate Wax vs M21 Behavior Test

                              As I was doing this, I have to say that Paint Protect is a sheeting type protection. Also while doing this ULW showed the most beading behavior and very nicely tight uniform beading. M21 was more sheeting and the beading closely resembled that of paint protect. I ended up washing this hood 10 times and they all are still performing quite well. I used Hyper Wash as my soap of choice. Awesome soap by the way. After I washed it one last time, I noticed that the sheeting of paint protect had slown down. It was sheeting slightly slower than M21. Initially it was sheeting a little quicker than M21. All three sheet quite well.

                              I will wash it another 10 times in a week or so and I will make another update.

                              Enjoy the update.
                              99 Grand Prix
                              02 Camaro SS

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