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    Re: Clear coat safe rubbing or Ultimate compound

    Well...not sure what you're worried about The car looks great.

    You keep asking about polish and shine, though, and I can see what you mean in the pictures. The car's paint is a light blue-grey that blends into the sky, so it's going to take - you guessed it - polishing oils. I think, regardless of any compounding you may do, you should use a polish over the whole car like Ultimate Polish (Detailer D302 would be darker and wetter looking, and is yellow, not white), and also a polish-wax, like Ultimate Wax, or better yet, Gold Class. I think Ultimate will only re-enforce the silvery highlights, but if you try Gold Class it will darken the finish and make it, well, golden, especially after D302, but also after UP. Since Gold Class is loaded with the oils we've discussed, you should have an eye-popping, deep wet shine. My comment before was because of black paint that's already glossy, but your paint, while pretty of course, will need that extra polishing oil and darkening ability to make it pop.

    So, I think it's an easy fix, or test. If you already have UP, all you need is an inexpensive bottle of Gold Class Carnauba Plus, but make sure you get some Gold Class Quik Wax as well so you can maintain it
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    Re: Clear coat safe rubbing or Ultimate compound

    Thanks a lot for this beautiful comment.

    So I buy a bottle of Gold Class Carnauba Plus LIQUID? Because I do it by hand.
    But the ULW is a lot more expensiver than the Gold Class Carnauba, is it because there is a foam pad and microfiber towl included in that box?

    And should I also use next time Meguiars Gold Class shampoo and Deep Crystal Step 2 Polish (A2116) before the gold class liquid wax?

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    Re: Clear coat safe rubbing or Ultimate compound

    Just a quick note. Didn't have the time this year (winter is soon coming to Sweden). So i just made a quick fix. Clay then PP365. However i intend to use the products i bought in spring time (UC and UP, then i havn't decided but i guess UW). Never used any product that didnt have to dry to a haze, so am quite nervous to try it out. I watched numerous youtube clips to see how it looks like. And i guess it won't be perfect first time (have a black paint aswell to complicate things even more). But as i said in my first post. Am not after perfection. it dosent have to be 100% first try

    And am not sure, but i might buy a machine aswell. We'll see

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    Re: Clear coat safe rubbing or Ultimate compound

    Quote Originally Posted by snozan View Post
    And am not sure, but i might buy a machine aswell. We'll see
    I also will considering buying a machine, I gues it will be a lot easier and more effictive.

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    Re: Clear coat safe rubbing or Ultimate compound

    Quote Originally Posted by rytec View Post
    Thanks a lot for this beautiful comment.
    You're welcome Yes, I'd get the liquid myself. Some waxes are packaged with extras, some aren't.

    Quote Originally Posted by rytec View Post
    And should I also use next time Meguiars Gold Class shampoo and Deep Crystal Step 2 Polish (A2116) before the gold class liquid wax?
    If you already have Ultimate Polish, just stick with that.
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    Re: Clear coat safe rubbing or Ultimate compound

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Gear View Post
    Well...not sure what you're worried about The car looks great.

    You keep asking about polish and shine, though, and I can see what you mean in the pictures. The car's paint is a light blue-grey that blends into the sky, so it's going to take - you guessed it - polishing oils. I think, regardless of any compounding you may do, you should use a polish over the whole car like Ultimate Polish (Detailer D302 would be darker and wetter looking, and is yellow, not white), and also a polish-wax, like Ultimate Wax, or better yet, Gold Class. I think Ultimate will only re-enforce the silvery highlights, but if you try Gold Class it will darken the finish and make it, well, golden, especially after D302, but also after UP. Since Gold Class is loaded with the oils we've discussed, you should have an eye-popping, deep wet shine. My comment before was because of black paint that's already glossy, but your paint, while pretty of course, will need that extra polishing oil and darkening ability to make it pop.

    So, I think it's an easy fix, or test. If you already have UP, all you need is an inexpensive bottle of Gold Class Carnauba Plus, but make sure you get some Gold Class Quik Wax as well so you can maintain it

    Hi Top Gear,

    Thanks again for your answers and tips.

    Well, I bought a bottle of Gold Class Wax as you suggested after your post and also a bottle of Gold Class shampoo, but I didn't had the time yet to do a detailing on my car.
    But yesterday it was D-day ! I had some spare time and I started to first wash the car with that Gold Class shampoo, but then I was thinking this shampoo is not doing it's job yet because I haven't waxed it with GC yet. Normaly I was my car with the yellow shampoo.
    But OK, I already washed it so I continued then with drying the car and the to polish it with UP by hand, still haven't bought a machine yet.
    And the afterwards I waxed it with the Gold Class liquid wax.
    It's still difficult to see the difference but maybe it will be there after a few detailings and maybe I also should try this D302 next time instead of UP.
    Can I buy that D302 in the shop too where I buy the other Meg stuff here in Belgium?

    See pictures of the result yesterday here :
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    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...2018.41.06.jpg
    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...1.36%20HDR.jpg

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    Re: Clear coat safe rubbing or Ultimate compound

    Looks great! The shampoo is just meant to gently clean, which it will do nicely. Next time you wax, you might do the the polish step not once, but twice. Then do the wax step, which you can also do twice. That might make a difference in what you're trying to do. D302 will be similar, but yellow instead of white, so it might accentuate the gold look very well. Nice work
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