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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    Can a consumer use this instead of Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax? I read through both threads. The Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax you said apply to a panel, then wipe after 5 minutes, whereas this one you apply to entire vehicle. But Ceramic Sealant is more durable, which is why I would have preference for the sealant product. I guess question is how to choose which one as a regular consumer if I were doing my entire car? Thanks.

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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    Quote Originally Posted by xilex View Post
    Can a consumer use this instead of Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax? I read through both threads. The Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax you said apply to a panel, then wipe after 5 minutes, whereas this one you apply to entire vehicle. But Ceramic Sealant is more durable, which is why I would have preference for the sealant product. I guess question is how to choose which one as a regular consumer if I were doing my entire car? Thanks.

    Exactly my thought aswell. To me the M27 seems like a refiend version of ultimate liquid wax (entire car, sun etc).

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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    Quote Originally Posted by xilex View Post
    Can a consumer use this instead of Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax? I read through both threads. The Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax you said apply to a panel, then wipe after 5 minutes, whereas this one you apply to entire vehicle. But Ceramic Sealant is more durable, which is why I would have preference for the sealant product. I guess question is how to choose which one as a regular consumer if I were doing my entire car? Thanks.
    If it's readily available to order through regular retailers, I don't see why not.

    I also don't get why one would spend the money for HCLW when you can get this instead. More durable, seems easier to apply since you can do the whole car, and apparently has no down sides in comparison.

    I guess the only real difference is you can walk into a Wal-mart and buy HCLW.

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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    Quote Originally Posted by xilex View Post
    Can a consumer use this instead of Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax? I read through both threads. The Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax you said apply to a panel, then wipe after 5 minutes, whereas this one you apply to entire vehicle. But Ceramic Sealant is more durable, which is why I would have preference for the sealant product. I guess question is how to choose which one as a regular consumer if I were doing my entire car? Thanks.
    Quote Originally Posted by snozan View Post
    Exactly my thought aswell. To me the M27 seems like a refiend version of ultimate liquid wax (entire car, sun etc).
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    If it's readily available to order through regular retailers, I don't see why not.

    I also don't get why one would spend the money for HCLW when you can get this instead. More durable, seems easier to apply since you can do the whole car, and apparently has no down sides in comparison.

    I guess the only real difference is you can walk into a Wal-mart and buy HCLW.
    So a few thoughts comparing our new Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax VS. our new M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant. Both have same SiO2 backbone, but they are different products in the other ways they were built, as mentioned, the application, HCLW panel by panel, M27 requires minimum of 2 - 5 minutes prior to removal but can also be applied to whole vehicle, where Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax you want to wipe off panel by panel. M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant was built with a "gloss package" into the formula as well, where HCLW focuses mainly on advanced SiO2 technology in protection & ease of application. Some other things to consider, M2716 MSRP is $29.99 USD. HCLW 16 oz MSRP is $22.99 USD.

    The other big factor to keep in mind is that our PRO product distribution is MUCH less when it comes to being able to buy the product in a brick & mortar location.

    Both will be sold on-line as usual, so if you shop on-line for car care products, then to answer your question, yes, a consumer can certainly buy & apply M27. However, it does come at a higher price & not as readily available.

    Hope this helps when trying to decide between the two.
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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Winn View Post
    So a few thoughts comparing our new Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax VS. our new M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant. Both have same SiO2 backbone, but they are different products in the other ways they were built, as mentioned, the application, HCLW panel by panel, M27 requires minimum of 2 - 5 minutes prior to removal but can also be applied to whole vehicle, where Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax you want to wipe off panel by panel. M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant was built with a "gloss package" into the formula as well, where HCLW focuses mainly on advanced SiO2 technology in protection & ease of application. Some other things to consider, M2716 MSRP is $29.99 USD. HCLW 16 oz MSRP is $22.99 USD.

    The other big factor to keep in mind is that our PRO product distribution is MUCH less when it comes to being able to buy the product in a brick & mortar location.

    Both will be sold on-line as usual, so if you shop on-line for car care products, then to answer your question, yes, a consumer can certainly buy & apply M27. However, it does come at a higher price & not as readily available.

    Hope this helps when trying to decide between the two.
    Thanks Nick, that does clarify it a bit. I almost want to say though, it sounds like nobody can go wrong with either one. (Knowing my crazy self I'm going to end up with both once they go on sale.) I'm almost done with my blue bottle of HCW and personally I really do not like the spray and rinse application method. I must be too old school for that process, so I was ecstatic to see these products announced.

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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    Just so I understand....

    So is that same durability for both + gloss for M27, or HCW is more durable and M27 more gloss?
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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    Quote Originally Posted by Murr1525 View Post
    Just so I understand....

    So is that same durability for both + gloss for M27, or HCW is more durable and M27 more gloss?

    I read about them both and my conclusion is that M27 is more like ULW then HCLW - i honestly cant see why i should chose HCLW over M27. Not if you read about them both

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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    Quote Originally Posted by Murr1525 View Post
    Just so I understand....

    So is that same durability for both + gloss for M27, or HCW is more durable and M27 more gloss?
    M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant is more durable than Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax plus M27 has more gloss.
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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Winn View Post
    However, it does come at a higher price
    We already pay like it would be gold for Meguiars products in Sweden. But hey they changed the price for HCW to $25,85 from $31.06

    So the retail price for M27 will be around $29,99 for a product that last longer will be absolutly no problem consider we pay $45,61 for a bottle of ULW

    Conslusion, a high price dosent scare me. We're kinda used to pay for Meguiars products =)

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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    Nick

    Can M27 be diluted with water to use as a maintenance topper / booster for itself? If so, will diluting affect the gloss level of M27 and what would be a good dilution ratio?

    I saw there are other new maintenance products, like M799, but if M27 can be diluted to use as a booster, that would be my preferred choice.

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