Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

[Nick Winn]

Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

Nick,

Can I use Shampoo Plus followed by M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant and then M799 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Bead Booster as needed on my wrapped car?

Thank you.

Yes, is your car glossy? It should be for applying M27. I believe 799 can be used on matte wrap, will have to double check.

[Jeffola]

Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

OK, I want to ensure I have all my facts so lets get this straight.

M27 is a sealant, lasts about 6 months in comparison to the M788 which is a year
M27 should be applied using a foam finishing pad on the DA, but you can also hand apply
M27 is ok to use in direct sunlight, and won't harm any exterior plastics it comes in contact with.
To apply M27, Clay bar the vehicle for best results OR use M122 to clean off any leftovers from wax or polish?
You can wax or polish or seal OVER M27?


Over all the other products you make, and it seems every day there are more, what is the down side to this?

This seems like the only tradeoff to "traditional" ceramic is that it only lasts 6 months.

Just bought my DA recently, and used the DMC and DMF discs to cut and finish my sons 2017 Escape, which we had clay bar'd a few weeks ago. The results were stunning, simply stunning. This M27 will go over that, and provide protection and enhanced beading?

I just want to make sure I have all my ducks in a row before I pull the trigger. It seems too good to be true.....

Of course last year that was the story with the G1905256, which was a PIA for first application and easy on the subsequent, but it didn't have the CERAMIC finish that other real ceramic products have.

Thanks in advance.

[symmetrical]

Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

OK, I want to ensure I have all my facts so lets get this straight.

M27 is a sealant, lasts about 6 months in comparison to the M788 which is a year
M27 should be applied using a foam finishing pad on the DA, but you can also hand apply
M27 is ok to use in direct sunlight, and won't harm any exterior plastics it comes in contact with.
To apply M27, Clay bar the vehicle for best results OR use M122 to clean off any leftovers from wax or polish?
You can wax or polish or seal OVER M27?


Over all the other products you make, and it seems every day there are more, what is the down side to this?

This seems like the only tradeoff to "traditional" ceramic is that it only lasts 6 months.

Just bought my DA recently, and used the DMC and DMF discs to cut and finish my sons 2017 Escape, which we had clay bar'd a few weeks ago. The results were stunning, simply stunning. This M27 will go over that, and provide protection and enhanced beading?

I just want to make sure I have all my ducks in a row before I pull the trigger. It seems too good to be true.....

Of course last year that was the story with the G1905256, which was a PIA for first application and easy on the subsequent, but it didn't have the CERAMIC finish that other real ceramic products have.

Thanks in advance.

Everything looks good to me except "You can wax or polish or seal OVER M27?"

Putting any kind of wax or other sealant over M27, it will negate the benefits of M27, which is very crazy water beading and protection characteristics. The general consensus, whatever you put on top, it will take on the characteristic of that product, not the one below.
Also if you Polish, you're just going to remove M27, so you definitely don't want to do that.

Also this being compared to "G1905256" or Hybrid Ceramic Wax in the blue bottle. M27 to me is superior from my personal testing in terms of tighter water beads, and gloss.

[Jeffola]

Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

Thank you so much. The bottle arrived Saturday! I will coat my first victim shortly. I had just done a clay bar, Light cut compound and finish using my new DA3000. The DFF 5" came yesterday.

[symmetrical]

Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

Thank you so much. The bottle arrived Saturday! I will coat my first victim shortly. I had just done a clay bar, Light cut compound and finish using my new DA3000. The DFF 5" came yesterday.

No problem, enjoy it!

There is only ONE thing I really don't like about M27 but it's sorta minor. The "self-leveling" technology makes it really difficult to see where you've applied, especially on lighter colored cars. (I recently did my white Subaru WRX) and it was a pita to remember where I've already applied. So the best method seems to be, do one panel or two panels at a time. I wish there was some sort of Dye or something you can put into this stuff so that it's easier to see.

[pinoysurf]

Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

I am going to clay, polish and finish with M27. Is there any advantage to clay with the Ceramic Detailer or do I just use the Quick Detailer that came in the kit?

[davey g-force]

Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

^^ Great question. Hopefully someone chimes in soon..

In my opinion, it would be seen as a waste of the more expensive ceramic detailer, as you would only remove it later during the polishing step.

[pinoysurf]

Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

In my opinion, it would be seen as a waste of the more expensive ceramic detailer, as you would only remove it later during the polishing step.

Ahhh...that is very true.

[lig]

Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

Now that it has rained a bunch I’m pretty sure there’s no chance M27 will last 6 months. The car is outside and is a daily. I’d be fine with three months under those conditions.

I am impressed with the protection so far and that was the primary goal. Bird **** - no problem. Tree sap took some work to remove but didn’t harm the paint. I’m happy.

[brianrb100]

Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

I used the M27 on my 4runner and was very pleased with the results. I would like to put a spray product on after I wash. What would the most appropriate product be? I'm thinking the M799 bead booster. Would I apply it full strength? Or would the D156 synthetic wax work better?

[symmetrical]

Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

I used the M27 on my 4runner and was very pleased with the results. I would like to put a spray product on after I wash. What would the most appropriate product be? I'm thinking the M799 bead booster. Would I apply it full strength? Or would the D156 synthetic wax work better?

For sure if you can get your hands on M799 I'd use that. Otherwise hybrid ceramic detailer would probably be ok too. You want to keep the self-cleaning and crazy water beading behaviors of the ceramic products, I think D156 will reduce that.

[atikovi]

Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

1) Any problem putting this on glass? I just clayed a pano roof and applied it by hand. Waited 10-15 minutes wiped off with MF towel. That was a struggle. The haze is difficult to remove and takes a lot of pressure.

2) Applied to the hood after clay, M110 and 83. First by hand. Buffing off the residue with a MF towel was very difficult. Thought I would dent the hood I had to press so hard and the streaks and residue still wouldn't come off. They I reapplied with a DA on a yellow foam pad. It was little better to take off but still couldn't buff off completely.

What am I doing wrong? Seems like it would take 3 hours of hard labor to do a car. I've been using Ultimate Fast Finish which is SO much easier and quicker. How much more gloss and durability does M27 have to make the application worth it?

[atikovi]

Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

Did the trunk and the product left this residue using the DA.

[davey g-force]

Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

^ Looks like clear coat failure to me!

[atikovi]

Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

No it just the sealant. Buffed it off but takes a lot of muscle.