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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    Quote Originally Posted by 510GUY View Post
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    Can I use Shampoo Plus followed by M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant and then M799 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Bead Booster as needed on my wrapped car?

    Thank you.
    Yes, is your car glossy? It should be for applying M27. I believe 799 can be used on matte wrap, will have to double check.
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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    OK, I want to ensure I have all my facts so lets get this straight.

    M27 is a sealant, lasts about 6 months in comparison to the M788 which is a year
    M27 should be applied using a foam finishing pad on the DA, but you can also hand apply
    M27 is ok to use in direct sunlight, and won't harm any exterior plastics it comes in contact with.
    To apply M27, Clay bar the vehicle for best results OR use M122 to clean off any leftovers from wax or polish?
    You can wax or polish or seal OVER M27?


    Over all the other products you make, and it seems every day there are more, what is the down side to this?

    This seems like the only tradeoff to "traditional" ceramic is that it only lasts 6 months.

    Just bought my DA recently, and used the DMC and DMF discs to cut and finish my sons 2017 Escape, which we had clay bar'd a few weeks ago. The results were stunning, simply stunning. This M27 will go over that, and provide protection and enhanced beading?

    I just want to make sure I have all my ducks in a row before I pull the trigger. It seems too good to be true.....

    Of course last year that was the story with the G1905256, which was a PIA for first application and easy on the subsequent, but it didn't have the CERAMIC finish that other real ceramic products have.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffola View Post
    OK, I want to ensure I have all my facts so lets get this straight.

    M27 is a sealant, lasts about 6 months in comparison to the M788 which is a year
    M27 should be applied using a foam finishing pad on the DA, but you can also hand apply
    M27 is ok to use in direct sunlight, and won't harm any exterior plastics it comes in contact with.
    To apply M27, Clay bar the vehicle for best results OR use M122 to clean off any leftovers from wax or polish?
    You can wax or polish or seal OVER M27?


    Over all the other products you make, and it seems every day there are more, what is the down side to this?

    This seems like the only tradeoff to "traditional" ceramic is that it only lasts 6 months.

    Just bought my DA recently, and used the DMC and DMF discs to cut and finish my sons 2017 Escape, which we had clay bar'd a few weeks ago. The results were stunning, simply stunning. This M27 will go over that, and provide protection and enhanced beading?

    I just want to make sure I have all my ducks in a row before I pull the trigger. It seems too good to be true.....

    Of course last year that was the story with the G1905256, which was a PIA for first application and easy on the subsequent, but it didn't have the CERAMIC finish that other real ceramic products have.

    Thanks in advance.
    Everything looks good to me except "You can wax or polish or seal OVER M27?"

    Putting any kind of wax or other sealant over M27, it will negate the benefits of M27, which is very crazy water beading and protection characteristics. The general consensus, whatever you put on top, it will take on the characteristic of that product, not the one below.
    Also if you Polish, you're just going to remove M27, so you definitely don't want to do that.

    Also this being compared to "G1905256" or Hybrid Ceramic Wax in the blue bottle. M27 to me is superior from my personal testing in terms of tighter water beads, and gloss.

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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    Thank you so much. The bottle arrived Saturday! I will coat my first victim shortly. I had just done a clay bar, Light cut compound and finish using my new DA3000. The DFF 5" came yesterday.

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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffola View Post
    Thank you so much. The bottle arrived Saturday! I will coat my first victim shortly. I had just done a clay bar, Light cut compound and finish using my new DA3000. The DFF 5" came yesterday.
    No problem, enjoy it!

    There is only ONE thing I really don't like about M27 but it's sorta minor. The "self-leveling" technology makes it really difficult to see where you've applied, especially on lighter colored cars. (I recently did my white Subaru WRX) and it was a pita to remember where I've already applied. So the best method seems to be, do one panel or two panels at a time. I wish there was some sort of Dye or something you can put into this stuff so that it's easier to see.

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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    I am going to clay, polish and finish with M27. Is there any advantage to clay with the Ceramic Detailer or do I just use the Quick Detailer that came in the kit?

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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    ^^ Great question. Hopefully someone chimes in soon..

    In my opinion, it would be seen as a waste of the more expensive ceramic detailer, as you would only remove it later during the polishing step.
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    I own a silver vehicle and a black vehicle owns me. The black one demands attention, washing, detailing, waxing and an occasional dinner out at a nice restaurant. The silver one demands nothing and it looks just fine. I think the black vehicle is taking advantage of me, and the silver car is more my style. We can go out for a drive without her makeup and she looks fine. If I want to take the black one out, it is three or four hours in the "bathroom" to get ready.

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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    Quote Originally Posted by davey g-force View Post
    In my opinion, it would be seen as a waste of the more expensive ceramic detailer, as you would only remove it later during the polishing step.
    Ahhh...that is very true.

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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    Now that it has rained a bunch I’m pretty sure there’s no chance M27 will last 6 months. The car is outside and is a daily. I’d be fine with three months under those conditions.

    I am impressed with the protection so far and that was the primary goal. Bird **** - no problem. Tree sap took some work to remove but didn’t harm the paint. I’m happy.

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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    I used the M27 on my 4runner and was very pleased with the results. I would like to put a spray product on after I wash. What would the most appropriate product be? I'm thinking the M799 bead booster. Would I apply it full strength? Or would the D156 synthetic wax work better?

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