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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    I picked up a bottle of this to compare it Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax, Ultimate Liquid Wax and M21. From my initial impression the application is really nice and the wipe off is easy. The self leveling technology is pretty good to aid in wipe off. HCLW seems to have it as well. It is slick but comparing it to HCLW, HCLW seems slicker upon wipe off. Also in terms of paint darkening ULW does more followed by M21 and M27. It is really close between M21 and M27. Review pending.

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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    Quote Originally Posted by The Guz View Post
    I picked up a bottle of this to compare it Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax, Ultimate Liquid Wax and M21. From my initial impression the application is really nice and the wipe off is easy. The self leveling technology is pretty good to aid in wipe off. HCLW seems to have it as well. It is slick but comparing it to HCLW, HCLW seems slicker upon wipe off. Also in terms of paint darkening ULW does more followed by M21 and M27. It is really close between M21 and M27. Review pending.
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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    Quote Originally Posted by The Guz View Post
    I picked up a bottle of this to compare it Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax, Ultimate Liquid Wax and M21. From my initial impression the application is really nice and the wipe off is easy. The self leveling technology is pretty good to aid in wipe off. HCLW seems to have it as well. It is slick but comparing it to HCLW, HCLW seems slicker upon wipe off. Also in terms of paint darkening ULW does more followed by M21 and M27. It is really close between M21 and M27. Review pending.
    Much appreciated Michael!

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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    Quote Originally Posted by The Guz View Post
    I picked up a bottle of this to compare it Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax, Ultimate Liquid Wax and M21. From my initial impression the application is really nice and the wipe off is easy. The self leveling technology is pretty good to aid in wipe off. HCLW seems to have it as well. It is slick but comparing it to HCLW, HCLW seems slicker upon wipe off. Also in terms of paint darkening ULW does more followed by M21 and M27. It is really close between M21 and M27. Review pending.
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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    Quick question for you all. I'm still getting caught up on the whole ceramic product line. I understand a true coating like M788 is going to have better longevity and more durability over M27, but would it be fair to say M27 will be more versatile to use and to adjust "looks" due to being able to apply M27 over polish oils where M788 and other true coats require panels to be striped of polishing oils?
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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

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    Quick question for you all. I'm still getting caught up on the whole ceramic product line. I understand a true coating like M788 is going to have better longevity and more durability over M27, but would it be fair to say M27 will be more versatile to use and to adjust "looks" due to being able to apply M27 over polish oils where M788 and other true coats require panels to be striped of polishing oils?
    It's best not to compare the two products IMO. But M27 would still be best applied over a prepped surface, with any residual polish oils removed. That's what "Meguiar’s M122 Surface Prep" is intended to help do before application. Don't get caught up in the weird messaging that M27 can be applied over anything. In fact, on the bottle itself the instructions say to apply to a fully prep surface for best results.

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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

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    Meguiar’s M122 Surface Prep

    It's best not to compare the two products IMO. But M27 would still be best applied over a prepped surface, with any residual polish oils removed. That's what "Meguiar’s M122 Surface Prep" is intended to help do before application. Don't get caught up in the weird messaging that M27 can be applied over anything. In fact, on the bottle itself the instructions say to apply to a fully prep surface for best results.
    so when I use M21, i would polish vehicle but would leave the polishing oils and consider that a prepped surface. What your saying is any ceramic product should have the polishing oils removed to truly be a prepped surface. Is that correct?
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    Re: Meguiar's M27 PRO Hybrid Ceramic Sealant

    Quote Originally Posted by 2000 View Post
    so when I use M21, i would polish vehicle but would leave the polishing oils and consider that a prepped surface. What your saying is any ceramic product should have the polishing oils removed to truly be a prepped surface. Is that correct?
    Yes actually the old tried and true method still applies even to ceramic products, which is prep the surface (polish as you said) and then follow up with some sort of IPA or meguiars surface prep to remove the residual oils. That way when you apply M27, it bonds to the bare paint making it perform and last much longer.

    The advertising from Meguiars have been a little confusing, since their consumer "Hybrid Ceramic Wax" and "Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax" says you can apply over any surface including previously applied sealants. But I don't think that's best if you want the best results. Hope that helps

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