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    Re: UP every 1-2 years - conflicting advice

    Quote Originally Posted by rover137 View Post
    Wow that is a lot of compounding! Good to know that as a reference point at least. My paint is very soft but surely given i will be using UP on a finishing pad on speed 2-3 will negate many of the effects of cutting!
    While I feel better promoting Meguiar's products on their forum, it's no secret that I really like the blue Hex Logic with Ultimate Polish for light defect removal, and final gloss. I'm not sure of those are available in Austrailia.

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    Re: UP every 1-2 years - conflicting advice

    Quote Originally Posted by drumdan View Post
    While I feel better promoting Meguiar's products on their forum, it's no secret that I really like the blue Hex Logic with Ultimate Polish for light defect removal, and final gloss. I'm not sure of those are available in Austrailia.
    I understand and feel better promoting megs as well but the pads are just so hard to come by here! Everything else i have is megs!

    Is this the one? https://shop.autofxwa.com.au/product...-blue-6-5-inch


    Looks to be available here in Aus and reasonably priced. Would you say this pad is more similar to the black megs pad i.e. with this pad i'm guessing there would be zero cut and it would be pure glaze from the UP?

    I was also thinking about the lake country pads in the SDO range as they seem good quality and are priced ok here - https://www.waxit.com.au/collections...14383538372697

    I like the idea of having just a little bit of cut with a finishing pad.

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    Re: UP every 1-2 years - conflicting advice

    Quote Originally Posted by rover137 View Post
    I understand and feel better promoting megs as well but the pads are just so hard to come by here! Everything else i have is megs!

    Is this the one? https://shop.autofxwa.com.au/product...-blue-6-5-inch


    Looks to be available here in Aus and reasonably priced. Would you say this pad is more similar to the black megs pad i.e. with this pad i'm guessing there would be zero cut and it would be pure glaze from the UP?

    I was also thinking about the lake country pads in the SDO range as they seem good quality and are priced ok here - https://www.waxit.com.au/collections...14383538372697

    I like the idea of having just a little bit of cut with a finishing pad.
    Yes, that's the one.

    It's got some cut, probably between the yellow and black Meguiar's discs. You might also like the red hex (similar to the black) which has no cut. Regardless, of how light the pad is, there is a light mechanical abrasive cut in the Ultimate Polish whose strength depends on how you use it. Low speeds, moderate pressure, light product application, and you're probably up for some serious gloss.

    I use Ultimate Polish with the green pad (and higher speed, moderate pressure) in many one step polishing situations. While I get surprising defect removal, the trade off is a little gloss. When polishing for gloss I'm typically using the blue, or the yellow Buff and Shine Uro-Tech.

    Lake Country are also very nice. Their black would be excellent.

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    Re: UP every 1-2 years - conflicting advice

    Quote Originally Posted by drumdan View Post
    Yes, that's the one.

    It's got some cut, probably between the yellow and black Meguiar's discs. You might also like the red hex (similar to the black) which has no cut. Regardless, of how light the pad is, there is a light mechanical abrasive cut in the Ultimate Polish whose strength depends on how you use it. Low speeds, moderate pressure, light product application, and you're probably up for some serious gloss.

    I use Ultimate Polish with the green pad (and higher speed, moderate pressure) in many one step polishing situations. While I get surprising defect removal, the trade off is a little gloss. When polishing for gloss I'm typically using the blue, or the yellow Buff and Shine Uro-Tech.

    Lake Country are also very nice. Their black would be excellent.

    That's interesting - so you'd use the red hex for wax application or pure gloss with UP? I'm just now trying to get all the combos in my head along with DA speed and all the other varying factors. Is low speed (gloss) considered as maybe 2-3 on a da and high speed (more cut) considered as 5?

    I do like the lake country but they only have 3 pads in the SDO range and im thinking i might need more to choose from with soft paint - Ie like the hex pad that is inbetween the yellow and black megs pads. Im not sure i see much difference with the hex red and black pads. Sometimes too many pads does confuse things i guess.

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    Depends.... you can correct with a da and polishing pad, or you can just use a finishing pad (or spread by hand) and make use of the filling ability as I do
    I dont need to remve anymore clearcoat.

    ITs not an exact science as, say the door jams will have thinner paint than your exterior... a compound may remove say 2 micrograms of paint and you have around 40-60 to play with.

    IF you used ultimate compound every week, youd be into the filler by month 2!

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    Re: UP every 1-2 years - conflicting advice

    Quote Originally Posted by rover137 View Post
    That's interesting - so you'd use the red hex for wax application or pure gloss with UP? I'm just now trying to get all the combos in my head along with DA speed and all the other varying factors. Is low speed (gloss) considered as maybe 2-3 on a da and high speed (more cut) considered as 5?

    I do like the lake country but they only have 3 pads in the SDO range and im thinking i might need more to choose from with soft paint - Ie like the hex pad that is inbetween the yellow and black megs pads. Im not sure i see much difference with the hex red and black pads. Sometimes too many pads does confuse things i guess.

    Dont overthink it. Without the panel in front of you its all theory and ...well.. you fry your brain.

    Utimate compound is more abrasive, ultimate polish is less abrasive ... ultimate polish with no pressure, is a glaze. pick your 'liquid sandpaper' and go for it depending on the paint condition.

    you can use harder or softer pads as you need, UC is the harsh abbrasive, and UP is the light abrasive very very light). UP with a hard pad would finish most things, UC with a hard pad may cause marring that needs finishing with a softwer pad and/or UP.

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