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  • #46
    Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating

    Originally posted by Nick Winn View Post
    Hi jas84,

    Yes, after 1 year or so, and you want to re-apply, you can do as you mentioned, reapply after washing & prep (compound/polish). If you would like to switch back to traditional waxes & it is has only been 3 - 6 months etc. with hybrid paint coating on, you may need to use a something stronger like a compound to remove the coating.

    Yes, our Hybrid Ceramic Product Line is great for maintenance & recommended

    The temperature should be the minimum recommended for application (60F) for a couple of hours while spraying & wiping as you mentione. Also, you need to be careful with heat. Make sure to read the full label including the product precautions on the back of the Hybrid Paint Coating packaging box. This product should only be used with adequate ventilation.

    As far as messing up, not much you can do to mess up appearance.
    Thanks for the reply and the reminder on the ventilation. I might have to wait for it to warm up a bit!

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    • #47
      Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating

      Hey Nick

      i know you mentioned that the Ceramic Detailer/Bead Booster range can be used to maintain the Hybrid Costing but hoping to get a little bit of the science around this. The coating itself doesn’t use Sio2 tech but a close ‘cousin’ to the usual ceramic coatings on the market. Do the Ceramic Detailer and Bead Booster products contain this ‘cousin’ makeup or do they contain Sio2 technology? If they do contain Sio2, will there be a dedicated maintenance product released for the hybrid coating?

      thanks!

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      • #48
        Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating

        - Can this be stored in areas that will see below 32F?
        - once cured, can a topper (m26) be applied without damaging the film?

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        • #49
          Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating

          Good question above. I am planing to buy, but worried about transportation in low temperatures or near 32F.

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          • #50
            Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating

            Originally posted by Nick Winn View Post
            Also, you need to be careful with heat. .
            That's one thing that seem vague to me. I live in Florida and while I can park in shade or garage to apply If it is 98 degrees out it is still going to be 98 degree body panels. What is the ideal temp range we should be applying in? I applied my coating on a 66F day and left it garage parked for over 36 hours. No water exposure for 7 days. The actual coating was so easy to apply compared to the washing and polishing I'm actually still nervous I did it wrong but I can really tell it's there after a very long car trip and the car looking clean till the end and I hit a cloud of mosquitos (which were really easy to remove with just some foam with gold class car wash and a power washer. Didn't even need to physically touch the car to wash it. Just used detailer on a 3 problem spots)

            Does humidity play any part? Big part of Florida and we can have 90%+ humidity.

            What is the 1 year+ time calculated on? UV radiation can be intense in Florida and it can really, really, rain here and a lot (Love bug season is going to really put the product to the test too). I'm not expecting a 1 year plus with this and I will be shocked if I get a year with the product. If I get a year you made an amazing product.

            I'm using the blue ceramic spray to maintain the coating but I use that to keep up the coating how will I know when the coat is gone because the beading isn't going to stop.

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            • #51
              Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating

              Originally posted by Nick Winn View Post
              Hi jas84,

              Yes, after 1 year or so, and you want to re-apply, you can do as you mentioned, reapply after washing & prep (compound/polish). If you would like to switch back to traditional waxes & it is has only been 3 - 6 months etc. with hybrid paint coating on, you may need to use a something stronger like a compound to remove the coating.

              Yes, our Hybrid Ceramic Product Line is great for maintenance & recommended

              The temperature should be the minimum recommended for application (60F) for a couple of hours while spraying & wiping as you mentione. Also, you need to be careful with heat. Make sure to read the full label including the product precautions on the back of the Hybrid Paint Coating packaging box. This product should only be used with adequate ventilation.

              As far as messing up, not much you can do to mess up appearance.
              Originally posted by Intrepid00 View Post
              That's one thing that seem vague to me. I live in Florida and while I can park in shade or garage to apply If it is 98 degrees out it is still going to be 98 degree body panels. What is the ideal temp range we should be applying in? I applied my coating on a 66F day and left it garage parked for over 36 hours. No water exposure for 7 days. The actual coating was so easy to apply compared to the washing and polishing I'm actually still nervous I did it wrong but I can really tell it's there after a very long car trip and the car looking clean till the end and I hit a cloud of mosquitos (which were really easy to remove with just some foam with gold class car wash and a power washer. Didn't even need to physically touch the car to wash it. Just used detailer on a 3 problem spots)

              Does humidity play any part? Big part of Florida and we can have 90%+ humidity.

              What is the 1 year+ time calculated on? UV radiation can be intense in Florida and it can really, really, rain here and a lot (Love bug season is going to really put the product to the test too). I'm not expecting a 1 year plus with this and I will be shocked if I get a year with the product. If I get a year you made an amazing product.

              I'm using the blue ceramic spray to maintain the coating but I use that to keep up the coating how will I know when the coat is gone because the beading isn't going to stop.
              Intrepid00,

              The member stated he was considering using a space heater in his garage. I stated be careful with heat; I was referring to his comment on the use of space heaters, subsequently advising member to read the entire product labels, which has more information around proper use. I will edit my response to be more specific.

              From what you described your application sounds proper. Preparation, like the use of clay, compound/polish if needed, followed by the included M122 Surface Prep Spray, & two coats of Hybrid Paint Coating an hour apart from each other, with the application itself applied above 60F, not exposing to water for 12-24 hours & ideally 7 days for the full cure.

              Regarding applying on a hot day, as long as the panels are not in direct sunlight & you are working in the shade, we do not anticipate any issue, except for maybe a little harder wipe off.

              No special recommendations around humidity for this product.

              As mentioned on the label, our up to 1+ year paint protection is based on water contact angle lab testing & predictive modeling. It's difficult to get into more specifics without potentially sharing too much, but essentially driving around, washing weekly, and testing certain characteristics, repeat. It has also shown to perform very well in a variety of environments. Regarding UV, in our testing it performs great. A couple of the top variables which can really affect the long term durability of a coating is where the vehicle is being parked & how often it is washed. Try to avoid parking in a spot where it may potentially get constantly abused, for example, next to sprinklers or under trees if it is going to rain. Regarding washing, try to wash weekly. The longer environmental contaminants sit on top the paint surface, the more likely they are going to affect your paint protection, with any product that is being used.

              Even if maintaining with our Hybrid Ceramic Detailer, Hybrid Ceramic Spray Wax, or Hybrid Ceramic Wash & Wax, we recommend re-applying Hybrid Paint Coating around once a year for optimum performance. With that said, it can last longer if the vehicle is really kept up well, and additionally, extreme weather or situations, like salt from roads, harsh chemicals, or lack of washing, it may not last as long as well.
              Nick Winn
              Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Online Forum Administrator
              Meguiar's Inc.
              Irvine, CA
              nawinn@meguiars.com

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              • #52
                Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating

                Originally posted by jcmgt View Post
                - Can this be stored in areas that will see below 32F?
                - once cured, can a topper (m26) be applied without damaging the film?
                Originally posted by Evgeny View Post
                Good question above. I am planing to buy, but worried about transportation in low temperatures or near 32F.
                Hi there,

                As with all of Meguiar's Products, prolonged exposure to extreme heat or cold or freezing is not recommended & the products should be stored at room temperature. We would not be concerned with cold temperatures if you are buying from an auto parts store, driving home, & bringing into room temperature or receiving a delivery from an on-line supplier. We also have agreements with the carrier companies which pickup from our warehouse that the products do not get exposed to extreme heat, cold or freezing. Again it is just prolonged exposure to extreme heat or cold or freezing, is not recommended.

                By the way, at the time of this post, Advance Auto Parts, AutoZone, O'Reilly Auto Parts, and Pep Boys show to carry Hybrid Paint Coating, as well as many on-line suppliers.
                Nick Winn
                Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Online Forum Administrator
                Meguiar's Inc.
                Irvine, CA
                nawinn@meguiars.com

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                • #53
                  Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating

                  Originally posted by Nick Winn View Post
                  The longer environmental contaminants sit on top the paint surface, the more likely they are going to affect your paint protection, with any product that is being used.
                  How much does a car wash harm it (hand or personal electric power washer not tunnel)? We have love bug season coming and I have no choice but to wash the front of the car constantly for a month.


                  Originally posted by Nick Winn View Post
                  Even if maintaining with our Hybrid Ceramic Detailer, Hybrid Ceramic Spray Wax, or Hybrid Ceramic Wash & Wax, we recommend re-applying Hybrid Paint Coating around once a year for optimum performance. With that said, it can last longer if the vehicle is really kept up well, and additionally, extreme weather or situations, like salt from roads, harsh chemicals, or lack of washing, it may not last as long as well.
                  I'm just worried I'll try to apply it too soon. I saw in an earlier post that said if you wait too long before 2nd coat you might not get it to bond right. I'm guessing if I clay it if needed (after a year I'm sure it will need it but new car here so I didn't need to first time) and polish it (I did do this with ultimate polish) that after a year I won't have to worry about bonding issues?

                  All and all I'm so far very happy with this. It's really protected the polish and letting the car keep a deep reflection.

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                  • #54
                    Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating

                    Originally posted by Intrepid00 View Post
                    How much does a car wash harm it (hand or personal electric power washer not tunnel)? We have love bug season coming and I have no choice but to wash the front of the car constantly for a month.
                    This product is very resilient to traditional hand washing, so you made a good choice. Feel free to wash it as much as you have to, and ideally at minimum every week, if daily driven. Also, it sounds like you plan to, but you should work to remove the love bugs as soon as you can, as they can begin to etch into the paint or in this case your paint protection. Hybrid Paint Coating should make them easier to remove.

                    Originally posted by Intrepid00 View Post
                    I'm just worried I'll try to apply it too soon. I saw in an earlier post that said if you wait too long before 2nd coat you might not get it to bond right. I'm guessing if I clay it if needed (after a year I'm sure it will need it but new car here so I didn't need to first time) and polish it (I did do this with ultimate polish) that after a year I won't have to worry about bonding issues?

                    All and all I'm so far very happy with this. It's really protected the polish and letting the car keep a deep reflection.
                    When applying Hybrid Paint Coating, it is recommended to apply two coats 1 hour apart, to ensure even coverage.

                    When it comes to preparing the paint for re-application after around 1 year has passed, the vehicle will more than likely need to be treated with a clay bar, like our Smooth Surface Clay Kit, so you process would be, Wash, Clay, Compound/Polish if desired, then re-apply Hybrid Paint Coating. Our Iron Removing Spray Clay is also a great additional but optional choice for further decontaminating the paint prior to application.
                    Nick Winn
                    Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Online Forum Administrator
                    Meguiar's Inc.
                    Irvine, CA
                    nawinn@meguiars.com

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                    • #55
                      Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating

                      Is a topper, such as m26 friend or foe?

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                      • #56
                        Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating

                        Originally posted by jcmgt View Post
                        Is a topper, such as m26 friend or foe?
                        M26 is not needed. You will mask all of the attributes of the hybrid paint coating.
                        99 Grand Prix
                        02 Camaro SS

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                        • #57
                          Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating

                          Originally posted by The Guz View Post
                          M26 is not needed. You will mask all of the attributes of the hybrid paint coating.
                          I understand it's not needed from the protection perspective. I ask as in the past I've used a topper to clear water spots or give the extra pop before a show.

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                          • #58
                            Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating

                            Originally posted by jcmgt View Post
                            I understand it's not needed from the protection perspective. I ask as in the past I've used a topper to clear water spots or give the extra pop before a show.
                            I think you would just be wanting one of the quick detailer type products for that.
                            2017 Subaru WRX Premium - WR Blue

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                            • #59
                              Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating

                              Originally posted by jcmgt View Post
                              I understand it's not needed from the protection perspective. I ask as in the past I've used a topper to clear water spots or give the extra pop before a show.
                              Stick with a ceramic type product for a topper.
                              99 Grand Prix
                              02 Camaro SS

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                              • #60
                                Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating

                                [QUOTE=rover137;597066]Hey Nick

                                i know you mentioned that the Ceramic Detailer/Bead Booster range can be used to maintain the Hybrid Costing but hoping to get a little bit of the science around this. The coating itself doesn

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