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    Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating

    Thanks for the info on the MDX, that is reassuring!

    I see you're in Santa Clara, I'm up in Marin -- what would you say the temperature was when you applied it? Was it humid (with all the rain)? Did you think the weather mattered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by symmetrical View Post
    I literally just finished applying this to my wife's MDX. I can safely say for 4., this is really hard to screw up in terms of high spots or anything like that.

    I mostly have experience applying CQuartz UK, while easy I still had issues time to time with high spots, not removing soon enough or removing too soon etc.

    Without a doubt, this Meguiars coating was extremely forgiving and easy to apply. In fact I was able to do 3 panels at a time, came back and it wipes off super clean. The most amazing part compared to something like CQuartz, it's super slick as you wipe, vs CQuartz which feels grabby.

    For your question #2, I believe they did mention you can maintain with Bead Booster or HCDetailer, which is probably what I'll do every couple months or so.

    Thanks for the info on the MDX, that is reassuring!

    I see you're in Santa Clara, I'm up in Marin -- what would you say the temperature was when you applied it? Was it humid (with all the rain)? Did you think the weather mattered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jas84 View Post
    Thanks for the info on the MDX, that is reassuring!

    I see you're in Santa Clara, I'm up in Marin -- what would you say the temperature was when you applied it? Was it humid (with all the rain)? Did you think the weather mattered?
    Oh yeah, I moved from Santa Clara up to Tracy. But yeah I was in the same boat as you, nervous about the temperatures being below 60F.
    I rolled the dice on Saturday and fortunately my garage went above 60F so I decided to do the coating.

    And yes I think there is a reason why for the application, Nick and Meguiars say to not let it go below 60F as I think it affects the flashing time.
    I noticed as I put on the first coat it was 61F, it took just a while longer to flash compared to when it got slightly warmer at 65F. I bet the super ideal temperature is going to be around 70.

    With that said, I still had zero issues with applying it. Just make sure to let it sit on the paint for at least 1 minute before wiping. It's so nice to not worry about high spots.
    I recently ceramic coated a BMW M2 with CQuartz UK and screwed up on the hood and roof because I didn't anticipate the flash times properly. I had to re-polish and re-do it, which was nerve-racking.

    With this Meguiars coating, I literally ended up doing about 2-3 panels at a time. And during the wipe off process, it came off super easy. Of course following the tip by doing a first pass with one side, and following up with a "dry" side for the second wipe.

    So yeah, you'll probably be fine. Just take your time and be thorough, it's worth the effort.

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    Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating

    Quote Originally Posted by symmetrical View Post
    Oh yeah, I moved from Santa Clara up to Tracy. But yeah I was in the same boat as you, nervous about the temperatures being below 60F.
    I rolled the dice on Saturday and fortunately my garage went above 60F so I decided to do the coating.

    And yes I think there is a reason why for the application, Nick and Meguiars say to not let it go below 60F as I think it affects the flashing time.
    I noticed as I put on the first coat it was 61F, it took just a while longer to flash compared to when it got slightly warmer at 65F. I bet the super ideal temperature is going to be around 70.

    With that said, I still had zero issues with applying it. Just make sure to let it sit on the paint for at least 1 minute before wiping. It's so nice to not worry about high spots.
    I recently ceramic coated a BMW M2 with CQuartz UK and screwed up on the hood and roof because I didn't anticipate the flash times properly. I had to re-polish and re-do it, which was nerve-racking.

    With this Meguiars coating, I literally ended up doing about 2-3 panels at a time. And during the wipe off process, it came off super easy. Of course following the tip by doing a first pass with one side, and following up with a "dry" side for the second wipe.

    So yeah, you'll probably be fine. Just take your time and be thorough, it's worth the effort.
    Really helpful feedback- thanks! I think I'll run a couple space heaters and bust out the laser temperature gun!

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    Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating

    Quote Originally Posted by jas84 View Post
    Hello, I have several questions about the Hybrid Paint Coating as somebody new to coatings and ceramic products

    1. After 1 year or the product wears out, what do you need to do? Can you simply reapply again after a wash and prep (compound/polish), or do you need to do something to remove what remains of the old coat first? What if I want to switch back to traditional waxes?

    2. After applying this coating, do you recommend following up with any of your ceramic wax or detailer products? Would the bead booster be more appropriate, and if so, what is the difference between the bead booster and the ceramic wax/ detailer?

    3. You mentioned temperature of application being at least 60 degrees. I live in Northern California and the highs have been around 58, is that close enough? What if I heated the garage during application, would it need to stay heated for 24 hours or just a couple hours while spraying and wiping?

    4. As somebody new to applying a coating, can I screw this up in a way where the car is going to look bad and my wife kills me? I understand poor form may impact performance of the product, but is there a chance at ruining my new car? I am comfortable with all the prep work and getting that done well, and I understand the coating is going to lock in the "current state", my question is more about risks when applying the coating.

    Thanks for your time! Excited to try this stuff out!
    Hi jas84,

    Yes, after 1 year or so, and you want to re-apply, you can do as you mentioned, reapply after washing & prep (compound/polish). If you would like to switch back to traditional waxes & it is has only been 3 - 6 months etc. with hybrid paint coating on, you may need to use a something stronger like a compound to remove the coating.

    Yes, our Hybrid Ceramic Product Line is great for maintenance & recommended

    The temperature should be the minimum recommended for application (60F) for a couple of hours while spraying & wiping as you mentioned. Also, be careful with space heaters. Make sure to read the all labeling including the product precautions on Hybrid Paint Coating's packaging. Also, this product should only be used with adequate ventilation.

    As far as messing up, not much you can do to mess up appearance.
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    Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Winn View Post
    Hi jas84,

    Yes, after 1 year or so, and you want to re-apply, you can do as you mentioned, reapply after washing & prep (compound/polish). If you would like to switch back to traditional waxes & it is has only been 3 - 6 months etc. with hybrid paint coating on, you may need to use a something stronger like a compound to remove the coating.

    Yes, our Hybrid Ceramic Product Line is great for maintenance & recommended

    The temperature should be the minimum recommended for application (60F) for a couple of hours while spraying & wiping as you mentione. Also, you need to be careful with heat. Make sure to read the full label including the product precautions on the back of the Hybrid Paint Coating packaging box. This product should only be used with adequate ventilation.

    As far as messing up, not much you can do to mess up appearance.
    Thanks for the reply and the reminder on the ventilation. I might have to wait for it to warm up a bit!

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    Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating

    Hey Nick

    i know you mentioned that the Ceramic Detailer/Bead Booster range can be used to maintain the Hybrid Costing but hoping to get a little bit of the science around this. The coating itself doesn’t use Sio2 tech but a close ‘cousin’ to the usual ceramic coatings on the market. Do the Ceramic Detailer and Bead Booster products contain this ‘cousin’ makeup or do they contain Sio2 technology? If they do contain Sio2, will there be a dedicated maintenance product released for the hybrid coating?

    thanks!

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    Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating

    - Can this be stored in areas that will see below 32F?
    - once cured, can a topper (m26) be applied without damaging the film?

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    Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating

    Good question above. I am planing to buy, but worried about transportation in low temperatures or near 32F.

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    Re: Meguiar's Hybrid Paint Coating

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Winn View Post
    Also, you need to be careful with heat. .
    That's one thing that seem vague to me. I live in Florida and while I can park in shade or garage to apply If it is 98 degrees out it is still going to be 98 degree body panels. What is the ideal temp range we should be applying in? I applied my coating on a 66F day and left it garage parked for over 36 hours. No water exposure for 7 days. The actual coating was so easy to apply compared to the washing and polishing I'm actually still nervous I did it wrong but I can really tell it's there after a very long car trip and the car looking clean till the end and I hit a cloud of mosquitos (which were really easy to remove with just some foam with gold class car wash and a power washer. Didn't even need to physically touch the car to wash it. Just used detailer on a 3 problem spots)

    Does humidity play any part? Big part of Florida and we can have 90%+ humidity.

    What is the 1 year+ time calculated on? UV radiation can be intense in Florida and it can really, really, rain here and a lot (Love bug season is going to really put the product to the test too). I'm not expecting a 1 year plus with this and I will be shocked if I get a year with the product. If I get a year you made an amazing product.

    I'm using the blue ceramic spray to maintain the coating but I use that to keep up the coating how will I know when the coat is gone because the beading isn't going to stop.

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